Chevrolet Camaro 1967-2002 - This car is so beautiful but... would ya own one?




Sp00led Ya
09-18-2008, 10:22 PM
I am big into modern cars that take corners hard, stick the launch and go fast. You can find me thinking about anything from EVO's and Supras to M3's and Porsches. But to be honest, like that girl who steals your heart yet you know shes bad news I see one of these and just melt. I instantly say to myself, I want one... I need one, I am going to have one. I start thinking of what joy it must bring to someone to just stare at it, slowly get in it, start it up and just blaaaast down a late night highway. Right? Or are these cars just nice to look at, and once you own one, hop in it you wish you had modern things or does this car totally wash away all of the high performance superficial BS of todays car market? Because I do recon these cars are as slow as dog shit and suck fuel down like an alcoholic does it whiskey. How would you all feel about owning one of these guys and just a beater to drive in poor weather? Or would it last about a WEEK?

http://www.1968z28.com/images/camaro018.jpg

http://www.1968z28.com/images/camaro035.jpg


badinfluenceRS
09-18-2008, 10:38 PM
You seem like an idiot, so no, dont get one.

Sp00led Ya
09-18-2008, 10:40 PM
You seem like an idiot, so no, dont get one.

Anddd you seem ignorant, oh wait... you are.


ReedBooth
09-19-2008, 12:37 AM
I own both, and you haven't the slightest clue what kind of money, time, and power you are getting into.

If you REALLY want the agony of owning one, get one. Otherwise, don't be another 'tard that buys one for the image of owning a first gen.

Sp00led Ya
09-19-2008, 09:24 AM
I own both, and you haven't the slightest clue what kind of money, time, and power you are getting into.

If you REALLY want the agony of owning one, get one. Otherwise, don't be another 'tard that buys one for the image of owning a first gen.

It's not the image, I love these cars I just don't know if the lack of performance would eat at me.

swamie100
09-19-2008, 09:33 AM
This has got to be the most imbred forum on earth. They are what all good things are born from, it was the muscle car era. We needed them to get to were we are now. If you have the money by an old car and enjoy it. You will appreciate the new cars more but old muscle cars have a charm to them and you don't have to spend 4 grand on a rear end to hold power either maybe we can learn something from our past.

Cheap Guy
09-19-2008, 06:13 PM
First of all, that's a beautiful car in the original post.

For several years prior to buying my "new" 97 Z28 early last year, I really contemplated buying a first gen Camaro. I just love the look of the car and I could care less that it may not be as quick as many of today's family sedans. A lot of people don't understand that a "car" sometimes isn't about 1/4 times or even reliability, it's about the "car". The reason why I didn't get one was because decent ones are sky high now, plus I didn't know if I would have the time/money to spend putting a cheaper one back together, plus I thought at the time I wanted (needed) a "reliable" daily driver.

When I finally settled on getting a 97 Z28, it wasn't about how fast it was or that it wasn't as fast as a LS1, I just wanted a “torquey, pointy-nose Z28, just like I couldn't afford when they were brand new. Again, it was about the “car” I wanted.

Turns out I don't drive my Z28 nearly as much as I thought I would (I have a work car, the family sedan and a Cherokee for hauling and winter) and I've had a few second thoughts about maybe I should have just held on to my first gen idea. In actuality, I’ll probably just hold on to my Z28 for another ten years, and listen to people say, “I wish I got one of those when they were cheap.” LOL.

z2fast8
09-19-2008, 10:49 PM
wtf makes you think it has a lack of performance? what are the specs of that car? or the car you are looking at buying. and yes i think that by your post you come off as a douche.

Sp00led Ya
09-19-2008, 11:39 PM
wtf makes you think it has a lack of performance? what are the specs of that car? or the car you are looking at buying. and yes i think that by your post you come off as a douche.

0-60mph in an SS 350 is 8.1 seconds... that's the lack of performance.

green28
09-19-2008, 11:40 PM
i think that by your post you come off as a douche.

+1

They can be built to handle and have just as much power as modern cars. Put in a built LS1 and knock down mid 20 mpg too. Or put in a nasty big block and just drive it on the weekends.

green28
09-19-2008, 11:42 PM
0-60mph in an SS 350 is 8.1 seconds... that's the lack of performance.

You ever heard of adding some mods or doing a motor swap. That wasn't too bad when the car was new 40 years ago, which is prolly what those 0-60 times are from.

CamaroKidZ28
09-20-2008, 09:49 AM
Shit will break.

Oh, and they don't have to have a lack of performance.. my 70 z28 w/a 454 isn't "Slow as dog shit".

TSSC
09-20-2008, 02:15 PM
lack of performance isnt a "year" thing. its a CAR thing.... there are cars today that go 0-60 in 8.1 sec. and there are some that do it in 4 seconds... SAME CASE WITH THE OLDIES. 454 + elcamino= domination of modern f-bodies. I say dont worry about the year and stereotype, look at the car itself

NHRAMAN
09-20-2008, 02:32 PM
Anddd you seem ignorant, oh wait... you are.

What a RANT...GEEZ. :eyes:

Dan Stewart
09-21-2008, 10:02 AM
Actually, I wouldn't mind owning one from each Gen.

Gen 1 pick: 69 (any trim)
Gen 2 pick: 71 Split Bumper (trim irrelevant....would be touring setup)
Gen 3 pick: Later year IROC
Gen 4 pick: Already own it (one down, 3 to go)

Thing is, I buy cars that no one else wants for cheap (typically run down ones like the '98 Restomod proj. in my sig) and fix them they way I want them. Since I do my own work, it's a heck of a lot cheaper.

Next year, I'm going to start a rat rod project in the spring and start looking for a gen 2 split bumper (actually for my wife, but we'll share it....of course).

Had a '79 Berlinetta that I did a Z28 front clip and rear swap with a 400 small. Was a fun car, but I just wasn't into the plastic bumper 2nd gens, so I sold it. Also had a '71 Malibu 350 that I turned into a SS clone. Now that one I wished I kept, but had a baby on the way and needed some green. Oh well, no regrets.

Boomer Sooner
09-21-2008, 03:24 PM
i would love to own a '67 or '68 camaro. one day, i will.

my younger brother just sold his '68 RS a little over a month ago.
it was his first car, and his daily driver. he is 22, it was his
DD for 6 years.

vipor blue with 2 grey stripes. sick looking.
327 bored/stroked? to a 350, stall(not sure what size), dumped TD's
with flowmaster mufflers. God i love the way his car sounded, LOUD and
mean sounding.

if my daughter didnt still need a car seat i would trade/sell mine for one in
a heartbeat.

brandotron
09-21-2008, 06:21 PM
Buy a roller firstgen and LSX the shit out of it!

Sp00led Ya
09-21-2008, 07:48 PM
Buy a roller firstgen and LSX the shit out of it!

Expensive unless the roller was completed and painted etc etc just w no motor or trans = unlikely.

bigblock4-speed
09-22-2008, 10:37 AM
Your gay if you think a first gen camaro is slow.. bring that dreaming crap here- porsh, bmw, whatever.... I think your a dreamer.. go to sleep!

Sp00led Ya
09-23-2008, 12:06 AM
Your gay if you think a first gen camaro is slow.. bring that dreaming crap here- porsh, bmw, whatever.... I think your a dreamer.. go to sleep!

Todays standards say a 1st gen Camaro is slow, depending on which one. If it isn't a 396 or better, it is... slow. And it's Porsche. And I'm gay because I also like some of the nicest cars ever made? Right.

Sunset01SS
09-23-2008, 07:22 AM
I feel dumber just reading this thread. Just go buy a turbocharged riceburner if you just want a quick car. You obviously don't understand old cars. I would rather be cruising in my 1970 Chevelle SS about 95% of the time over my 2001 Camaro SS even though my '01 Camaro is also a sweet car and it's faster.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r128/sunset01ss/70Chevelle_LMS800.jpg

CCCustoms
09-23-2008, 08:02 AM
Dear Richard (Sp00led Ya),

With these cars it is not about cornering ability, 0-60 times, top speed and ¼ mile times, its about the history the passion that went into designing and build them, and the exclusivity of owning a car were there isn’t two the same in one way or form.
And the only first GEN Camaro that could beat the EVO's, Supras M3's and Porsches you are so familiar to :bs: is the 1969 camaro ZL1 427 that recorded 0-60 5.3 and ¼ time of 11.68 and that was with cross-ply tires, with some high quality summer tire you would be looking at a 0-60 in 4.5 and a1/4 mile time in 11.4.

By the way Have you sold you 1998 Honda Accord LX w/67k for $3,800 yet ?
Sounds like you are living the high life.
:flipbird:

knappbunch
09-23-2008, 10:20 AM
is that an actual ss? is it ls5 or ls6? ls6 is my dream car.

Sunset01SS
09-23-2008, 01:03 PM
is that an actual ss? is it ls5 or ls6? ls6 is my dream car.
It was my dreamcar too... until my dream became a reality 3-1/2 years ago when I bought it. It is a real SS, but not the original engine or trans. It does have a 454, but one out of a newer truck. Numbers matching LS6 car would be my ultimate dreamcar too... but with those prices it will always just be a dream.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r128/sunset01ss/IMG_0330.jpg

Ntimid8r7
09-23-2008, 01:48 PM
SAME CASE WITH THE OLDIES. 454 + elcamino= domination of modern f-bodies.

Depends on which "modern F-Body" you are talking about.
Stock for stock
LT1=maybe
LS1=VERY IFFY

Even with an LS6 454 most of the best times were mid 13's thanks to era technology. There is not very many of the old muscle cars stock for stock that could compete with modern F-bodies. LS5 454's were only rated in the 360hp range, granted they may have been under rated does not take away from the fact that the track times these cars were running stock were not any better than what is available now.

Personally, I don't see how any of you can come across calling a guy gay, a douche, an idiot or anything like that for stating a fact that compared to the cars now, the cars of the mucle car era are slow. For thier time they were the baddest ass cars on the road period. But times have changed. He never said he hated them because they weren't supercharged or turbo'd or could handle like they were on a rail. He never said it was about the speed and how fast it is. He said he wanted to know what it would feel like to own one of the finest cars of the era. You guys need to read the whole story before you get all butt hurt.:eyes:

Sp00led Ya
09-24-2008, 07:29 PM
By the way Have you sold you 1998 Honda Accord LX w/67k for $3,800 yet ?
Sounds like you are living the high life.
:flipbird:

Actually it's nice and sold. So now I have to get myself some better rubber so I can stick my 392awhp and 364ftlbs to the ground w/ the FP Green EVO VIII sitting in my garage. I think you should get the entire story before you go bashing peoples cars with a flip off smiley... next time don't assume, it will just make an ASS out of U and ME minus the me part.

Sp00led Ya
09-24-2008, 07:32 PM
Personally, I don't see how any of you can come across calling a guy gay, a douche, an idiot or anything like that for stating a fact that compared to the cars now, the cars of the mucle car era are slow. For thier time they were the baddest ass cars on the road period. But times have changed. He never said he hated them because they weren't supercharged or turbo'd or could handle like they were on a rail. He never said it was about the speed and how fast it is. He said he wanted to know what it would feel like to own one of the finest cars of the era. You guys need to read the whole story before you get all butt hurt.:eyes:

Thank you, finally someone decided to be cool headed and soak up what was being put out before kicking into temper tantrum mode and throwing out
flip off smileys and ignorant rice burner bashes. I don't know what's worse, my lack of understanding of the previous eras cars or the lack of reading comprehension.

mr.z28
09-24-2008, 09:20 PM
*cough*....loser alert

Sp00led Ya
09-24-2008, 09:54 PM
*cough*....loser alert

*cough* ignint alert

The Batman
09-24-2008, 10:23 PM
i laugh when i hear people say those old cars where slow. They forget easily that the bias-supply tires didnt ever hook up for shit. Now throw on some decent tires and your 350hp (underrated) 4-bolt main 350ci SBC with a 3.73 or 4.11 rear end just got alot quicker. Ask a little kid to point to a fast car at a car show once...i bet he doesnt point to anything but an old muscle car...

bigblock4-speed
09-25-2008, 12:00 AM
Todays standards say a 1st gen Camaro is slow, depending on which one. If it isn't a 396 or better, it is... slow. And it's Porsche. And I'm gay because I also like some of the nicest cars ever made? Right.

69 Dz302 69 camaros wernt that slow..
For what these cars had in the day- and way under-rated hp #'s, i wouldnt really say that they are all slow.. if you are going for a stock look- like the r/s car that you are showing here- ya, it might not be the fastest thing in town, but it does get the looks, and also holds its value way more then any fwd new modern era car.. and at that- really any 4th gen camaro..

These 67-69 and now 70-73 camaros are what people want.. and yet they arnt ALL fast by anymeans.. i couldnt say they are slow - beings as though first and second gen camaros still can run around most of your cars out on the road today..

I have a 70 L34 bigblock 4-speed camaro,402/350hp, and dad has a 68 4-speed 396/375hp camaro- and by no means are they crazy fast cars- but mid 12 sec street cars- i dont think thats out of the norm..

I guess i dont understand what your trying to get to here.. ya can compair all day exotic expensive over priced cars to your 60's muscle cars like the one posted- but i dont understand? If u are into those types of cars(PorSChes- Evos- Bmws) thats cool to each his own.. but the last comment ya made-
How would you all feel about owning one of these guys and just a beater to drive in poor weather? Or would it last about a WEEK?

I as well as many others on this site- dont think that a 1st gen camaro is a car thats used to just beat around in poor weather.. tell my dad that his car would only last a week.. he drove it, but took care of it.. (original paint) and has owned it since Dec, 1969..

And i wasnt calling you gay.. it was more of the fact that who in their right mind wouldnt want a 67-69 camaro.. even if it was slow.. ???

SS#1531
09-25-2008, 09:22 AM
I think you guys are being too hard on him. And the immature, unhelpful, name calling is unnecessary. Obviously we almost all would love to have a nice 69 Camaro, but what he's asking is if you are a speed freak would it be worth giving up your faster, modern day sports car for it. Yes I know some older muscle is fast and obviously can be made faster, but on average, LSX cars are faster than old muscle.

I for one would struggle with making that decision also. I love 1st gen Camaros but I don't know if I'd give up my current SS or especially a 5th gen for one. Yes they have a definite "cool factor", but I know I'd miss the acceleration, braking, and handling of my 4th gen. Now if I could have a 5th gen, and a 1st gen, I'd be in heaven...or a 1st gen with modern engine, powertrain, suspension, and brakes.

ZeroFear
09-25-2008, 10:51 AM
you will hate it, period. If your used to high tech modern cars you'll drive that pos for 5 seconds and say "dam wtf did I spend my money on". Cars like that ( stock ones ) are basically museum pieces old guys collect for bragging rights.

On the flip side, A 68/69 built to modern specs ( say an LS1/w T56, decent brakes and handling, restored frame/paint/wheels etc ) costs around 40-50 grand. And thats cash too btw, no loans for a 40 y/o car.

If I was a millionaire I'd prolly drop a few coins on some historic cars + a nice garage to showcase them. But thats not for a few years.....

ZeroFear
09-25-2008, 10:53 AM
i laugh when i hear people say those old cars where slow. They forget easily that the bias-supply tires didnt ever hook up for shit. Now throw on some decent tires and your 350hp (underrated) 4-bolt main 350ci SBC with a 3.73 or 4.11 rear end just got alot quicker. Ask a little kid to point to a fast car at a car show once...i bet he doesnt point to anything but an old muscle car...

every old car I've street raced has gotten its ass raped. I have a stock 02 Z28. Who cares what little kids think are fast, wtf do they know? They think rice burners with body kits are the same as a formula one car.

HTX
09-25-2008, 11:27 AM
who cares how fast it is. Its still a badass car that gets shit tons of respect. No one cares about 4th gen camaros. Everybody and thier little brother has had one at some point in time.

But an original muscle car. Thats just jaws on the floor.

2KN1Z28
09-25-2008, 11:42 AM
Well, I a new guy on this board, but long time into cars. I have a 01 Z28 that I am tring to sell and I'm losing my ass on it compaired to what I paid. If I used that money to buy a deicent classic instead I would not be in this situation, the performance is great the resale sucks, buy your first gen.

USA1CAMARO1969
09-27-2008, 10:21 PM
Questions like this have always made me laugh. You see some people look at a 40-year old car and forget that the evolution of technology has got them where they're at. Then when they assume that a 40-year old car hasn't seen any benefits of the increasing technology really makes me laugh. I currently own a few Camaros, but the one I drive as a daily driver is a car I've got less than $5k in(I'm a cheap guy who'd rather wrench). It's a '68 that has a 454+.060(so it's anything but slow), it has 4-wheel discs from an '01 Trans Am(so it stops almost as good as my '00 Camaro), has a 1 1/8" front swaybar, Guildstrand mod on the upper control arms, and front springs from a Chevelle big block wagon with ac(so the car handles great), 3.42 12-bolt posi, and the harness was completely swapped for a painless harness. About the only thing the '00 has on it is air conditioning and gas mileage(which is important right now) so I'm looking for a T56 to get the overdrive(will I ever get 20+mpg??? NO). The fact that today I was driving by a show today and 3-guys in newer model vettes wanted to talk about my car amazed the hell out of me because I know how it was pieced together. And yes, I was offered money for it(why do they all think they can buy it). So understand we don't all build them as timecapsules and we all don't all throw buckets of money at them hoping for the best(I've seen what the tubular front clips are going for). And yes, I also think you're a moron if you think "it isn't fast".

Boomer Sooner
09-27-2008, 10:54 PM
who cares how fast it is. Its still a badass car that gets shit tons of respect. No one cares about 4th gen camaros. Everybody and thier little brother has had one at some point in time.

But an original muscle car. Thats just jaws on the floor.

+1!!!! preach on.


id rather have a clean(good paint, runs good, no major problems) 67 or 68 then, lets say, a '98-02 ss camaro. call me crazy. i could care less if my car is faster then yours. theres always someone faster. id still be in a 1st gen camaro and you wouldnt. that right there is a win in my eyes.

Boomer Sooner
09-27-2008, 10:57 PM
Questions like this have always made me laugh. You see some people look at a 40-year old car and forget that the evolution of technology has got them where they're at. Then when they assume that a 40-year old car hasn't seen any benefits of the increasing technology really makes me laugh. I currently own a few Camaros, but the one I drive as a daily driver is a car I've got less than $5k in(I'm a cheap guy who'd rather wrench). It's a '68 that has a 454+.060(so it's anything but slow), it has 4-wheel discs from an '01 Trans Am(so it stops almost as good as my '00 Camaro), has a 1 1/8" front swaybar, Guildstrand mod on the upper control arms, and front springs from a Chevelle big block wagon with ac(so the car handles great), 3.42 12-bolt posi, and the harness was completely swapped for a painless harness. About the only thing the '00 has on it is air conditioning and gas mileage(which is important right now) so I'm looking for a T56 to get the overdrive(will I ever get 20+mpg??? NO). The fact that today I was driving by a show today and 3-guys in newer model vettes wanted to talk about my car amazed the hell out of me because I know how it was pieced together. And yes, I was offered money for it(why do they all think they can buy it). So understand we don't all build them as timecapsules and we all don't all throw buckets of money at them hoping for the best(I've seen what the tubular front clips are going for). And yes, I also think you're a moron if you think "it isn't fast".

so true. my brother always had people offer to buy his car.

Outlawfireman
09-27-2008, 11:20 PM
Do whatever makes you happy man. You can ask everybody on here for their opinion, and you'll get just that. If you want one go get one. If you like it then cool you just made a good choice. If you don't like it then just sell it, cut your losses, and go on to the next one. At least then you will know for your self. Just my $.02

mrkimber44
09-28-2008, 12:11 AM
To me it's no contest, Old school American Muscle! I love my T/A but if I could swap it right now for a 69 Chevelle, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I wouldn't care if it was slow and heavy. It can be built just like any thing else we drive. It's classic, It's metal, It demands respect. Just think of that last scene in the ricer movie, Fast and Furious, I can't remember who won the stupid race between the supra and the Charger, but I do remember when the Charger wheel-stands on the green light. Always gives me goosebumps. That is what a old muscle car is to me!

My 2 cents.

HTX
09-28-2008, 01:05 AM
To me it's no contest, Old school American Muscle! I love my T/A but if I could swap it right now for a 69 Chevelle, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I wouldn't care if it was slow and heavy. It can be built just like any thing else we drive. It's classic, It's metal, It demands respect. Just think of that last scene in the ricer movie, Fast and Furious, I can't remember who won the stupid race between the supra and the Charger, but I do remember when the Charger wheel-stands on the green light. Always gives me goosebumps. That is what a old muscle car is to me!

My 2 cents.

That movie should never be refered to again when speaking about real cars

Cheap Guy
09-28-2008, 08:58 AM
Maybe I missed something, but why all the hate on the OP? :eyes:Seemed like a legitimate question as far as I'm concerned. Fact is, there is a trade off when going to an older car, even if it is a classic. I thought the OP was just asking if the trade offs are worth it.

I went through the same thought process - I really wanted to get a 68 Camaro and restore it, but after doing a little research, I realized that dream would have to be put on the back burner because it would have cost a bundle of money and a lot of time. If the OP does go the old car route, he just have to accept the car for what it is.

I wanted (and got) a ten year old 97 Z28 because it was a good balance between performance, cost and "classic-ness", especially since I couldn't afford a 97 when they were new. No, my Z28 isn't as fast as some family sedans, but that's not the point and I accept the car for what it is. I bought "the car" because it was "the car" I've always liked and wanted, just like a 68 Camaro.

mrkimber44
09-28-2008, 06:29 PM
That movie should never be refered to again when speaking about real cars

Thanks D*ck, it was just for visualization.

Elite_Hot_Rod
10-13-2008, 09:25 AM
Todays standards say a 1st gen Camaro is slow, depending on which one. If it isn't a 396 or better, it is... slow. And it's Porsche. And I'm gay because I also like some of the nicest cars ever made? Right.

Don't have a clue about 1st gens do ya? My 69 SS 350 is pretty quick. These cars are 40 years old what makes you think they haven't been modded? 350, 396, 427, 454, 468, 502, 540, 565, 572, 578 all make good power and weigh less than a 4th gen.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3717/img0137cq0.jpg

SneakySSnake
10-29-2009, 01:38 PM
every old car I've street raced has gotten its ass raped. I have a stock 02 Z28. Who cares what little kids think are fast, wtf do they know? They think rice burners with body kits are the same as a formula one car.

You sir are retarded, there are a slew of 60s cars that would rape your slow ass car. You are exactly the type of people I love to roll across in my 87 camaro, so I can laugh as your girlfriend asks you why your car just raped by an old car. You think an can make more power than a sbc or bbc can huh?:gtfo:

ss dave
10-29-2009, 02:58 PM
I love my first gen.

With a modified 430 LS7, Bowler 4l65e, Compushift, Hurst Dual gate it moves well.

SPC Prolite UCA, SPC LCA, AFX spindles, SKF C6 racing hubs, custom 600# springs, DA Varishocks all around, Baer GT stoppers with Hydroboost, DSE 12:7 box, Mark Williams aluminum shaft, 12 bolt posi and a CA G-Link 4link rear make it handle on rails and neck breakin stops.

I think first gens, especially a 69 looks killer!
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo225/bigwavessdave/P1010329.jpg
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo225/bigwavessdave/P1200185.jpg
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo225/bigwavessdave/P1010330.jpg
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo225/bigwavessdave/P5180198.jpg

Demon 383
10-29-2009, 03:15 PM
Why are some of you getting so touchy about this subject? Most old school muscle cars were infact slow! As far as small blocks were concerned if it was anything short of an LT-1 350 under the hood then forget about it! It had the performance that todays Honda Accords can beat. And many of those high-horsepower big block V8's of the olden days were actually "over-rated" as opposed to under partially due to the way they measured horsepower back in those days. Most would be lucky to dip into the mid 13's at 105 traps with the exception of a few of the limited more expensive models. Their performance is similar to that of the 93-02 LT1/LS1 cars stock for stock and I think we would all agree that wouldn't be considered 'fast'.

CHRRRIS
10-29-2009, 03:18 PM
^ Very nice ride ss dave!

I also don't get some of the harsh responses to the OP..?

I love the look of first gens but it all depends on how much you have to spend, what you really want out of a car, how long you want to wait and how much you want to spend to get to that point...

If you have $6k and are looking for a complete car that is "fast," 4th gen it is.

If you have a bigger budget and are comparing a porsche or newer car to a first gen, think of buying a roller first gen like mentioned, do some research, get your hands dirty, and you could have a dead sexy first gen that has more power and handles amazing for the same price..

It all depends on what you want and what you are willing and able to do to get there.

68 LS2 Camaro
10-29-2009, 07:36 PM
+1 for the first gen lsx crowd! If you don't think a first gen is fast enough, throw some lsx in it!

CAMAROZ28SS
10-29-2009, 08:08 PM
It's not the image, I love these cars I just don't know if the lack of performance would eat at me.

hahah my 71 camaro would probably fuck up anything you own.

dont get one tool

HTX
10-29-2009, 08:26 PM
did no one notice that this thread is a year old?

HTX
10-29-2009, 08:29 PM
You sir are retarded, there are a slew of 60s cars that would rape your slow ass car. You are exactly the type of people I love to roll across in my 87 camaro, so I can laugh as your girlfriend asks you why your car just raped by an old car. You think an can make more power than a sbc or bbc can huh?:gtfo:

I would really like to see this "slew" of 60s cars you speek of. Seeing as though in the 60s a 13 second car was considered pretty damn fast. and guys modded the shit out of their cars to run high 11s. There were fast cars in the 60s. But a 1st gen does not compare to an LS1 fbod. stock vs stock or even mod vs mod.

FullBlack4thGen
10-29-2009, 08:29 PM
It's not the image, I love these cars I just don't know if the lack of performance would eat at me.

If you dont like how the car preforms but you like how it looks wouldn't that be image?
To be honest, and try not to take offense here, you don't seem like a guy who's really into the car itself. You seem more like a guy that's into speed regardless of what car it is. Also i wouldn't recommend getting a first gen and then trying to make it faster to street race. First gens have like 0 safety features (1 if you include belts) which you might need depending on how you drive. Personally i would rather be doing 60 in a first gen then 120 in my 4th but to each his own.

FullBlack4thGen
10-29-2009, 08:33 PM
did no one notice that this thread is a year old?

You know. . .i was wondering why a 3 page post popped out of nowhere when i check this site every day. . .

Also don't in the 60's the cars that ran 13's rand out of gas A LOT faster then today. Today its performance but economy. My Z28 ran 13's my first time at the track a month or 2 ago and still got me 30mpg highway on the way home.

Engine_HP
10-31-2009, 03:56 PM
IMO those cars are for shows only like SEMA, but not DDs.

98Z2885
10-31-2009, 10:21 PM
We just fired up my dads 67 today, I originally paid 9k for a RS SS roller. The car was near mint though. It was only missing minor things. It has lots of options as well. We are in the process of weeding out the bad wires that run to the starter. I can say it takes a lot of money and I mean alot, that and time to restore one right. If its not rust, its wiring, or its the shitty brake systems on them. Trust me when I say, this little roller turn street car has almost hit 15k and we havent even touched to body yet. Be prepared to spend 10-20k in resto easy. Now you can get a no option driver for roughly 9k+ if you shop around. The biggest problem with the first gen camaros is that they are almost 45 years old, and time has caught up with most of them. In the long run though, there is nothing like sitting behind the wheel of a piece of history. That is one car that will never go out of style.

squee
11-01-2009, 03:09 AM
My take on it is this. First off, the OP doesn't sound like he knows all that much about cars in general to be honest. He sounds like the type that throws a CAI on his car and thinks hes hot shit. Maybe its just me though? Personally, I love cruising around in my '69 C10. Its just something thats fun to drive around when everythings 100%, but thats the thing. Older cars are almost NEVER 100%. Theres always something wrong with em. Sure, I HATE driving my truck when its hot cause of no AC, and in the winter cause the heater doesn't work for shit, and in the rain cause the brakes lock up and it hydroplanes like a mofo, and not to mention I HATE not being about to do anything but cruise around town and not get on the highway cause no overdrive and 3.73s that make it run outa gear at 98mph, but thats just how they are. I accept that and I knew that when I got it. I also knew that I would inevitably be working on it all the time just to keep it running good. If its not one thing, its another. I'd love to have a '69 Camaro, but I know I wouldn't be able to drive it every day for simple reasons like I have with my truck, but thats how it goes. Sure my trucks not THAT fast, but its pretty damn quick when its running right, lol, but I kinda got a reality check when I surprisingly stayed right next to a 98 Z28 all the way to 70 when we let off. Not to mention I think the owner of the Porsche I raced got a reality check of his own when a old truck whooped his ass. :D

so true. my brother always had people offer to buy his car.

You would expect that from a 69 Camaro, but surprisingly, I get 3-4 offers on my truck a WEEK. Its rediculous. I mean its just a '69 C10 for christ sake...