Multimedia Exchange - New car.....2009 Cobalt SS t/c Sedan!!




hugger1975
09-23-2008, 07:23 AM
Track times!!!!

stock
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-results/1120878-2009-4-door-cobalt-ss-tc-track-times.html
14.3 @ 103.5


update......got the GM stage 1 installed and it is now an insane lil DD! Boosts 24lbs and pulls and pulls...this should make the summer interesting :)

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/racers-lounge/1342838-new-slobalt-ss-time-slips-13s-106-traps-end-world.html

60......2.651
330.....6.583
1/8.....9.598
MPH....82.54
1000...12.136
1/4.....14.287
MPH....106.52





:woot:


Crazy ass little go cart that pulls .9 on the skid and should run 14.1 or so!!!

Of course I got it for invoice bla bla bla.
Like 24k out the door after the tax and shit.

no-lift shift and launch control
blue tooth
XM
Onstar
Brembo brakes
4cyl turbo 260hp 260tq (underrated??)
5 speed
performance suspension
boost gauge
18's
tire monitor
freakin has its own phone and number to call me in the car!
10 in Pioneer sub in trunk
USB controls my i-pod from steering wheel (even says all the names)
fold down rear seats



etc etc.......................




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And no that is not sweat!!! the seats have that 2 layer look like carpet. Roll your hand one way and it changes (beat ya to it since my guys at Ls1 mentioned it...lol)
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Should be a nice toss-able DD.


94lt105
09-23-2008, 07:50 AM
That is a beautiful Cobalt. Keep her clean bro..

Vince

LSNASTY
09-23-2008, 07:54 AM
x2 man i wouldnt mind having one of those looks really good


1996Formula
09-23-2008, 07:55 AM
im digging it!

hugger1975
09-23-2008, 08:08 AM
Thanx guys, the rear could have used a better look imo.....I sure cant wait to surprise the crap out of someone!!

:grumble: damn 200 mile break-in recommendation.....(i'm only at 80)

Camaro Z
09-23-2008, 09:36 AM
I looked at an 09 Cobalt SS coupe and it didn't have a boost gauge it looked like some kind of monitor like an edge programer would look on the pillar, whats the difference?

avro206
09-23-2008, 09:43 AM
Great little rocket you have. I am jealous.

My daily driver is a 07 2.4L "SS" automatic. It bores me sooo much :emb::bang:

hugger1975
09-23-2008, 11:34 AM
I looked at an 09 Cobalt SS coupe and it didn't have a boost gauge it looked like some kind of monitor like an edge programer would look on the pillar, whats the difference?

It has boost.
It is like one of thos g-tech pros.
a/f, boost, drag times, cornering g's, etc

I would like to have it but i am ok with the lil boost gauge

BlackTTC6
09-23-2008, 12:55 PM
5spd? What is this 1991? No 6spd? No auto? Looks cool tho

hugger1975
09-23-2008, 01:11 PM
5spd? What is this 1991? No 6spd? No auto? Looks cool tho

I almost grabbed a Mazdaspeed 3 because of the 6speed but it also was missing a few cool things.....

They claim it makes power above 2k so it doesn't need a 6 :bang:
Tech it does, I can grab 5th at 25mph and be fine.
Seeing 28mph average so far.

jmurray87
09-23-2008, 01:33 PM
Wow, i never liked the cobalt sedans but that is pretty dam sexy. Looks good.


I would not mind a SS T/C but I would want the coupe.

Frank02L
09-23-2008, 01:38 PM
Looks alot like the HHRSS except different skin.

BHSS4142
09-23-2008, 02:15 PM
Nice man, I've been wondering if the Sedans would look good or not. The 08+ SS/TC wheels are very sharp. I had an 06 SS/SC in the same color with all the goodies making around 260whp. Get it tuned by HP tuners or one of the canned tunes (Hahn or Synapse I believe) and it really opens it up. :devil:

speedy_2
09-23-2008, 02:28 PM
Nice Car. I like those wheels. Are those new for '09? Also, is that Pioneer Subwoofer stock???

hugger1975
09-23-2008, 03:26 PM
Nice man, I've been wondering if the Sedans would look good or not. The 08+ SS/TC wheels are very sharp. I had an 06 SS/SC in the same color with all the goodies making around 260whp. Get it tuned by HP tuners or one of the canned tunes (Hahn or Synapse I believe) and it really opens it up. :devil:

:D Kinda hoping for GM supported stages before I do that

Nice Car. I like those wheels. Are those new for '09? Also, is that Pioneer Subwoofer stock???

Yes, 100% stock! The sub actually has somthing to it (and I have 12' Orions in the Z)
I believe the rims are new, but I have not looked twice at the 08's since there was no SS sedan

firehawk00
09-23-2008, 03:50 PM
Looks clean! I read those have some sort of launch control where you can just mash the throttle and dump the clutch, computer controls the revs. Should also have the power shift feature, GM actually recommends you leave the throttle mashed between full throttle runs.

c0ncEpT
09-23-2008, 04:04 PM
Wow it looks really nice! Congrats! I always wanted a TBSS as a DD but with the way gas is going and the way that thing looks its a really good alternative.

H21surfer
09-23-2008, 04:07 PM
I almost bought a SS coupe awhile back for a DD, but decided to wait for something else. They are fun little cars. Congrats on the purchase

transambroli
09-23-2008, 04:10 PM
Didnt know they made ss sedans nice job on keeping it American and throw some tint on those windows

hugger1975
09-23-2008, 08:09 PM
Looks clean! I read those have some sort of launch control where you can just mash the throttle and dump the clutch, computer controls the revs. Should also have the power shift feature, GM actually recommends you leave the throttle mashed between full throttle runs.

Yup, it is called "no lift shift"

Select mode: bring revs up, drop clutch and shift each gear w/out lifting within one second and it holds the revs to keep boost!

Blackbirdws6
09-23-2008, 09:19 PM
Looks like a fun DD. Good luck with it.

CrabhartLS1
09-23-2008, 10:14 PM
Cool man looks good.

and yeah those motors come a tad underrated, most people dyno around 240 to the wheels.

verve_v
09-23-2008, 10:33 PM
Needs lots more boost:)

hugger1975
09-23-2008, 10:56 PM
Needs lots more boost:)

Maybe a little if they release a stage.
Dont want to have 2 cars milking the checkbook!! :D

Looks like a fun DD. Good luck with it.

Wana trade? I love that G8!!

MYSTIC-1SC
09-23-2008, 11:23 PM
good lookin car

brownz
09-24-2008, 05:50 PM
Thats the only way that i would get one 4-DOORS they look the best and for a DD you cant beat it. I wonder what i could get one for threw work ??? might be a idea LOL

Detoxx03
09-24-2008, 06:02 PM
Nice little ride. My brothers has an 06. I would own one

My1st Truck
09-24-2008, 09:32 PM
Love it man! Looks great!

Redlinez
09-24-2008, 09:50 PM
I've been checking those out online for a little while. I used to have a 06 MKV GTi 6 speed man, loved driving it. Just drove a friends brand new Mazdaspeed3. I drove it 3 miles and didn't like it like all the reviews made me feel like I should. The front end felt like every bushing in it was poly, absolutely slams on rough road and had some very noticeable turbo lag. I wanna drive one of those SS sedans when I finally see one. Nice car, great pics!! Let the mods begin!!!

KFC_Or_Bust
09-25-2008, 01:45 AM
Speed3 had turbo lag? Maybe you buddies car was broken but my Speed6 spooled under 2k rpms and was at full spool at no more than 2,500 rpms...Speed6 pwns Speed3 if you can get one for a good price.

Anyways, 4 door Cobalt SS/TC is a great DD, nice aquisition man! :D

WS6_MAC
09-25-2008, 07:01 AM
Looks plain, but the performance and options more than make up for it. Cool DD!

BHSS4142
09-25-2008, 08:31 AM
Yes, those wheels are for 08+ SS/TCs, both sedan and coupe.

hugger1975
09-25-2008, 08:59 AM
Speed3 had turbo lag? Maybe you buddies car was broken but my Speed6 spooled under 2k rpms and was at full spool at no more than 2,500 rpms...Speed6 pwns Speed3 if you can get one for a good price.

Anyways, 4 door Cobalt SS/TC is a great DD, nice aquisition man! :D

I tested the speed 3 and 6......I loved them!!
Just just had a different set of toys., otherwise I was torn on the 3 and cobalt.

3 had zenon's, 6 speed, slightly more tq, more room, etc
cobalt has boost gauge, xm, bluetooth, better stereo, onstar, launch control and my 09 was the same price as an 08 Mazda so I went with the Cobalt.

KFC_Or_Bust
09-25-2008, 12:50 PM
I haven't been around a new Cobalt SS yet so I can't really compare the two, my bud has had an 05 Ion Redline and 05 Stage 2 Cobalt SS and my Speed6 was superior in practically every way. Even Stage 2 his car was barely faster than mine stock, despite his car weighing 500 lbs less than mine. A cone filter and open dp and I held him off until 140mph when my boost was cut down to 6 psi.

I loved the stock Bose in the Speed6, I'm not sure if the 3 had a woofer but mine had a nice 10" in the back deck, bumped nice for stock. Boost gauge and Bluetooth would've been nice but overall I liked my car better, plus with awd I had useful power in 1st and 2nd gear.

All that said, I need to get a ride in one of the new ones, see what a turbo does in place of the blower. :)

:hijack:

hugger1975
09-25-2008, 01:32 PM
I haven't been around a new Cobalt SS yet so I can't really compare the two, my bud has had an 05 Ion Redline and 05 Stage 2 Cobalt SS and my Speed6 was superior in practically every way. Even Stage 2 his car was barely faster than mine stock, despite his car weighing 500 lbs less than mine. A cone filter and open dp and I held him off until 140mph when my boost was cut down to 6 psi.

I loved the stock Bose in the Speed6, I'm not sure if the 3 had a woofer but mine had a nice 10" in the back deck, bumped nice for stock. Boost gauge and Bluetooth would've been nice but overall I liked my car better, plus with awd I had useful power in 1st and 2nd gear.

All that said, I need to get a ride in one of the new ones, see what a turbo does in place of the blower. :)

:hijack:


:D From what I have read (lots of late night reading) they are dead even 1/4 mile and 60mph times so thats even. It takes some mods for the s/c cobalts to keep up with the stock new t/c model.

<---------cant wait to suprise some people! Come dow and get a ride!!! :secret2:

BlackFormula01
09-25-2008, 02:30 PM
Needs lots more boost:)

From what I've read on the Solstice Forums, there is not a lot of room to increase the boost on these engines without really starting to compromise them. I think you have to do big money things to make them really fast. Regardless, very nice car! I think that 2.0 T is a very nice engine and would love to have on in a GXP Solstice. I just wish they could make the Sol as affordable.

Ed

KFC_Or_Bust
09-25-2008, 05:48 PM
Really? I thought these little Ecotecs were stout out of the box? My bud bought a non-turbo Solstice and put an aftermarket turbo kit with a 35r on and hasn't had any troubles in 8 months or so. I don't really know how much he's boosting or how hard he beats on it because he's off at school but it seems trouble free so far...

The Batman
09-25-2008, 06:01 PM
do they still make the SS coupe with the circle tail lights and high wing? I think the new t/c version of that would be fun :D

njkid
09-25-2008, 06:04 PM
looks good man. i gotta 05 ss s/c. picked it up about 4 months ago. yet to take it to the track. its a fun car not to bad.

MonmouthCtyLS7
09-25-2008, 07:09 PM
Coupe looks alot better

hugger1975
09-25-2008, 07:30 PM
Coupe looks alot better

Maybe, but it doesnt quite fit a car seat :secret2:

camaro98z28
09-25-2008, 08:26 PM
These cars are catching on. ADM and Hahn is where the good mods start.;)

stadtnw
09-25-2008, 08:34 PM
Great little car. I have 95,000 on my 05 and love it for DD. I would trade it in for a 09 but I'm waiting for the new camaro.
Joe

Redlinez
09-25-2008, 08:34 PM
I disagree. I think the sedan looks much more proportional. Can't stand the big huge butt end of the coupe. My Speed6 was slower than my MKV GTI from a roll, I had the base model and the seats must have been meant for huge people. It definitely wasn't as fun to drive as my GTI was. Both of them were full of interior rattles and noises. My speed6 started eating the insides of both front tires within 5k miles, the dealer replaced them and in another 2000 miles I saw it getting worse. I drive like a grandpa most of the time as I'm in traffic. I say the MS3 had some lag comparing it to my MKV GTi.
Check out Hahn Racecraft's Cobalt SS TC.

SRfastZ
09-25-2008, 08:37 PM
very nice looking SS

LustrousWS6
09-26-2008, 04:17 AM
You just bought my #1 choice for a DD. Nice bro.

EPP
09-26-2008, 05:04 AM
Your sedan looks great!
I have an '06 SS with the supercharger, it's been a great car so far. One of these days we're going to put mine on our dyno and see what we can get with a good tune with our EFILive. Bob

98 WS6
09-26-2008, 05:27 AM
Wow dude, that is one of the nicest little sedan's I have ever seen. And to boot, it's turbocharged!

I agree on the statement with the rear though. They made the front look so good (:drool:) but it doesn't look they spent as much time on the rear. Oh well, better this than have it look importy. Good luck :thumb:

Redlinez
09-26-2008, 07:46 AM
Quite a few cars look good in the front but the rear was an afterthought. Time for some track runs!!!

hugger1975
09-26-2008, 08:50 AM
Quite a few cars look good in the front but the rear was an afterthought. Time for some track runs!!!

I will. Have to wait to next spring. Just dropped $2500 on a trans rebuild and bought a new car the same week!
My wife wants to strangle me....lol


You just bought my #1 choice for a DD. Nice bro.

Hurry!!!!
Employee pricing almost over!!

And :joecool:
Check out the deep blue paint, they didnt have one anywhere in a 200 mile search of me.

98 WS6
09-26-2008, 12:48 PM
Damn man what size tires are those on the back of your camaro?

hugger1975
09-26-2008, 03:05 PM
Damn man what size tires are those on the back of your camaro?


:lol:

295's.........

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Redlinez
09-27-2008, 01:04 PM
Your car just won the comparo in Road and Track (not a magazine I really care for, but good read) against the WRX, Lancer Ralliart, and Mazdaspeed3. You need to check out cobaltss.net Great stuff on there for you.

hugger1975
09-27-2008, 02:14 PM
Your car just won the comparo in Road and Track (not a magazine I really care for, but good read) against the WRX, Lancer Ralliart, and Mazdaspeed3. You need to check out cobaltss.net Great stuff on there for you.

sweet!!!

I will pick it up, I even saved some mags from when they 1st trested my z!! :chug:

jrob56
10-30-2008, 02:01 PM
nice car man i drove one at the Indy Back at the Track event and it was a fun car id like to have one for a DD after college in a few years...

allthrotle
10-30-2008, 02:32 PM
Very nice little car, I would have bought the 2 door but, I understand the whole car seat thing.:D

ScreaminRedZ
10-30-2008, 11:11 PM
Great looking daily driver! Can't complain about the performance either :D Have fun with it! Keep us posted on races.

TUMBLRws6
10-30-2008, 11:32 PM
sweet man...thats a pretty little car ya got there

SIC LSX
10-31-2008, 12:57 AM
5spd? What is this 1991? No 6spd? No auto? Looks cool tho

Yeah GM said the car would be slower with the gearing of a 6 speed!

redsscamaroboy
10-31-2008, 11:56 AM
Sharp car, we are thinking about getting the coupe in Blue as a DD.
Wife has a GTO ,and her Silverado Z71 as a DD.
my SS is a toy and i want a DD.

How many PSI of boost is it pushing out?
28 mpg is great.

David

bongva
10-31-2008, 02:00 PM
looks sweet man! i wouldnt mind having a cobalt now that they're turbo... but plastic intercooler piping FTL. need big hard pipes lol.

i bet that thing is super comfortable!

SIC LSX
10-31-2008, 02:59 PM
man i hope the do this with the G5! The G5 looks better! My mom got a 2 door g5 GT and it looks good. The yare the same car i just hop they got with the turbo
http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/2/W/gm_07g5gt_rear34.jpg
http://www.autospectator.com/cars/files/images/2008-Pontiac-G5-GT-2.jpg

ScreaminRedZ
11-01-2008, 12:07 PM
Turboed G5 would definitely be nice.

Apex_632
11-01-2008, 07:27 PM
Me and my fiance are looking at one of these as our next daily purchase. Explain the launch control, I've never heard of anything like that on the turbo cobalts. I know it has the no lift shift though.

Apex_632
11-01-2008, 07:28 PM
looks sweet man! i wouldnt mind having a cobalt now that they're turbo... but plastic intercooler piping FTL. need big hard pipes lol.

i bet that thing is super comfortable!

They are. They basically share the same seats as the SS hhr. WHich I sat in. I'm a fat dude and I found the seats to be just fine.

rdm85mcss
11-01-2008, 07:57 PM
They are fun little cars ! I love my 06 supercharged.:D

hugger1975
05-20-2009, 10:33 PM
Bumped for track times.

Vids soon!

Big_Bird_WS6
05-21-2009, 09:42 PM
auto or stick?

can you get a auto?

b4christ15
05-22-2009, 08:37 AM
auto or stick?

can you get a auto?

I believe they are only available with a 5 speed manual.

loloone
05-22-2009, 12:45 PM
The new turbo Cobalts are sick, especially the four doors! After all, you know how the ol' saying goes: "Four doors for more whores"

lol, nice ride!

hugger1975
05-22-2009, 06:30 PM
The new turbo Cobalts are sick, especially the four doors! After all, you know how the ol' saying goes: "Four doors for more whores"

lol, nice ride!

:lol: Thanx!

Turns on rails and pulls 103 traps.........damn, I need more bitches and better tires now..... :devil:




auto or stick?

can you get a auto?



SS is a 5-speed.....You can get the HHR SSin an auto but not the Cobalt

TakeAwayTheFear
05-23-2009, 12:01 PM
that car is sweet!! If I had the extra money, I would def. buy one right now!

hugger1975
02-15-2010, 08:29 AM
beware...................


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boosteddakota
02-15-2010, 08:39 AM
sweet cars but they dont come close to comparison with the srt-4. i had a 03 srt-4 with 215hp and bone stock with 17" toyos i went 13.2 @ 104. the down side was the trannys were garbage. i put 3 in 1 year

allbaugh_04
02-15-2010, 09:35 AM
sweet cars but they dont come close to comparison with the srt-4.

Wrong.

hugger1975
02-15-2010, 10:33 AM
sweet cars but they dont come close to comparison with the srt-4. i had a 03 srt-4 with 215hp and bone stock with 17" toyos i went 13.2 @ 104. the down side was the trannys were garbage. i put 3 in 1 year

reading the srt forum that time is one of, if not the best stock times......


look at the crap this guy gets
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f28/13-2-stock-542647/

boosteddakota
02-15-2010, 10:38 PM
Wrong.

how do you figure? what do they rate them at for hp? more than 215 right? and track times are low 14's to high 13's. srt4 was rated 13.6 stock and i just switched out my 17" michelin pilots for toyo proxes and went 13.2

they are still a bad ass car but in the end the neon is faster

boosteddakota
02-15-2010, 10:46 PM
reading the srt forum that time is one of, if not the best stock times......


look at the crap this guy gets
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f28/13-2-stock-542647/
weather people believe him or not, im sure he ran the number. his mph seems wrong and thats a killer 60' with a street tire but its possible. thats what i ran. theres a member on here i think his name is my84z, john. he can vouch for my car. i raced him in his camaro the 3rd day i owned the car and did pretty damn good. he beat me but for my first street race i think we were both suprised how fast the car was.

plus i bought the first one in my area so not many people had seen these on the street so when i messed with people they were stumped

hugger1975
02-15-2010, 10:52 PM
i understand stumping people.
i had an epiphany recently when i ran into a 4-door ss (only arund 400 of them) and realized, if i was in a gt or somthing similiar, i wouldnt look twice at the lil 4 door grocery getter much less expect to get left.........

i have love for the srt, i would have grabbed one but i wanted something brand new.
the are indeed fast but i admit, i never saw one run your times without a stage 1-3.
but they are indeed impressive

NeedaV8foundation
02-16-2010, 01:16 AM
man why are you still messing with this thing!? haha just messing, its a sick dd thats for sure. your gonna have a run in with my soon to be DD lightning sooner or later around naperville.

ps im picking up another lsx over the summer

PhillyLS1
02-16-2010, 03:19 AM
My 05 SRT-4 ran 13.63 on street tires at 101mph
My 03 SRT-4 ran 13.2 on street tires with a wastegate and filter.

I also have a Cobalt SS in the driveway. The SRT-4 is the better car for the money. However money aside the Cobalt is more refined and handles almost as good as my corvette.

hugger1975
02-16-2010, 07:18 AM
man why are you still messing with this thing!? haha just messing, its a sick dd thats for sure. your gonna have a run in with my soon to be DD lightning sooner or later around naperville.

ps im picking up another lsx over the summer


:-)
cant wait!

and another lsx?
you are as bad as me!

hugger1975
02-16-2010, 07:22 AM
My 05 SRT-4 ran 13.63 on street tires at 101mph
My 03 SRT-4 ran 13.2 on street tires with a wastegate and filter.

I also have a Cobalt SS in the driveway. The SRT-4 is the better car for the money. However money aside the Cobalt is more refined and handles almost as good as my corvette.

damn those fast srt's!
to what do you srt guys think is owed to the better times posted?
sure there are guys on the cobalt forum in the low 13's but of the 2 srt guys who posted here, both are low 13's

cobalt has more power and is as pretty light.
not bein ignorant or doubting.....just a curious car guy :)

hell, i wish i knew why i cant get out of the high 11's in my z :(

boosteddakota
02-16-2010, 08:14 AM
i actually had a blast driving my friends saturn redline. that was a decent car. not crazy fast but turned some heads when they were least expecting it.

boosteddakota
02-16-2010, 08:18 AM
and i got pulled over in my srt4 the day i bought it. it had 11 miles on it. the cop stopped me for loud exhaust. i had to go to court 3 times for that. i needed a decimal readout, a letter from the dealer stating it was factory and from the dodge rep. i hated having a car that was new around town and cops had no clue what it was!!

NeedaV8foundation
02-16-2010, 06:53 PM
:-)
cant wait!

and another lsx?
you are as bad as me!

yea i actually have a internship that pays out really well that im doing over the summer. im gonna sell the lightning at the end and buy either of the following... 06 CTS-V, 02ish FRC, an SS or WS6, or if i break down enough a 03/04 termi. but we'll see my budget is around 18k

hugger1975
02-16-2010, 08:13 PM
cant go wrong with any of those!

camaro98z28
02-16-2010, 09:09 PM
I think I'll have to lower mine to get rid of the wheelhop. It was fn dangerous. Almost makes me want to stop racing it at the track. :(

PhillyLS1
02-18-2010, 03:23 AM
damn those fast srt's!
to what do you srt guys think is owed to the better times posted?
sure there are guys on the cobalt forum in the low 13's but of the 2 srt guys who posted here, both are low 13's

cobalt has more power and is as pretty light.
not bein ignorant or doubting.....just a curious car guy :)

hell, i wish i knew why i cant get out of the high 11's in my z :(
The cobalt has more power on a brochure. My SRT-4 dyno'd 237hp 257tq at the wheels. Its also easier to launch and the car communicates to the driver better. The SRT-4 is lighter by about 60lbs as well.

Dodge also has a long history of making quick turbo compacts then GM.

hugger1975
02-18-2010, 06:50 AM
thanks filly.
i love how the under rate these turbo cars :)


with the launch out of theway, im assuming that why its a driver race from a roll.
the cobalt is a biznitch to get under 2.3 consistantly.

lilbuddy1587
02-18-2010, 03:30 PM
how do you figure? what do they rate them at for hp? more than 215 right? and track times are low 14's to high 13's. srt4 was rated 13.6 stock and i just switched out my 17" michelin pilots for toyo proxes and went 13.2

they are still a bad ass car but in the end the neon is faster

You sir are in fairy land. The SRT is a great ride but it was never considered a mid 13 second car. It's a bottom 14, HIGH 13 second car, with some dipping into the mid and low 13's (negative DA, spring mod and other shit that people don't want to mention). Honestly, to spew that kind of crap is like everyone else saying the LS1 F-bodies are all high 12 second cars. :eyes:

Not only is the Cobalt faster (Trap speeds) but it's just as quick. It's also a much better track car platform and now that the ECU is slowly but surely being unlocked, you can expect MUCH faster LNFs. Bolt on vs Bolt on, LNF wins. Big turbo vs Big turbo, SRT takes the cake, for now.

GM rated these cars under strict SAE guidelines, Dodge never did that with the SRT. It's HP/TQ are extremely underrated. The SRT is also not a victim to the terrible, lame ass nanny features that GM built into these cars, IE Air load limits, all kinds of TQ management, restrictions in the clutch/clutch reservoir etc. etc.

SRfastZ
02-18-2010, 10:53 PM
nice DD and good times for a stock cobalt

PhillyLS1
02-22-2010, 01:11 AM
thanks filly.
i love how the under rate these turbo cars :)


with the launch out of theway, im assuming that why its a driver race from a roll.
the cobalt is a biznitch to get under 2.3 consistantly.

The SRT will win from a roll as well, the SRT-4's trap higher and it isn't a twin scroll turbo.

hugger1975
02-22-2010, 07:19 AM
how does a car with less hp an tq at similiar weight trap and et the same?

i was on yer side up till that but now i see you are biased and an srt nuthugger.


i trapped almost 104 fwiw.......
even though we dissagree, i still lke the srt BUT they are not pulling away fron the ss/tc from any roll......

260>220

DiscerningZ32
02-22-2010, 08:39 AM
I hope Philly LS1 is either leaving something out or joking. I really hope he isn't trying to say he ran a mid 13 at over 100mph in a stock srt 4. Also, the highest I've seen a stock neon dyno (without those stupid mopar stages) is 220 at the wheels on a dynometer with the customer satisfaction setting bumped to the max. I'm also curious to know what he's talking about when he says "Dodge also has a long history of making quick turbo compacts then GM." The obvious grammatical error aside, this statement still makes no sense. Care to elaborate?

PhillyLS1
02-23-2010, 04:35 AM
how does a car with less hp an tq at similiar weight trap and et the same?

i was on yer side up till that but now i see you are biased and an srt nuthugger.


i trapped almost 104 fwiw.......
even though we dissagree, i still lke the srt BUT they are not pulling away fron the ss/tc from any roll......

260>220
I'm a nuthugger?

Put a cobalt on a dyno and have your heart broken. In many cases they dyno LESS then an SRT-4 especially on Mustang dynos. And they aren't "Similar Weight" The SRT-4's are lighter by around 60 to 100lbs. The power comes in in different places and the gearing is different.

I also own BOTH an SRT-4 and a Cobalt SS/TC. So blow me with the nut hugger bullshit fanboi.

I hope Philly LS1 is either leaving something out or joking. I really hope he isn't trying to say he ran a mid 13 at over 100mph in a stock srt 4. Also, the highest I've seen a stock neon dyno (without those stupid mopar stages) is 220 at the wheels on a dynometer with the customer satisfaction setting bumped to the max. I'm also curious to know what he's talking about when he says "Dodge also has a long history of making quick turbo compacts then GM." The obvious grammatical error aside, this statement still makes no sense. Care to elaborate?
I've never seen a stock SRT-4 dyno less then 229hp. Again, mine dyno 237hp and 257tq on a MUSTANG dyno.
I'm not joking. The joke's on you:
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f28/does-orange-blast-hold-record-quickest-bonestock-srt-4-a-318602/

60ft- 2.10
1/8- 8.82
1/4- 13.631
1/4mph 101.77

temp was
45 degrees
54% hum
30.39 barometer



There are multiple people running close to that number. That thread was made in 2006 before this pissing match.

OMG you got me. I used then instead of than :eyes:

How many turbo cars besides the GN/Turbo T/A has GM made that were worth a shit?
Dodge had the GLHS, the Shadow, the IROC. These were all cars far ahead of their time and it showed in how the NSRT-4 was produced. The Cobalt SC is a piece of junk and it took GM years to get it right with the T/C.

So there, I elaborated.

hugger1975
02-23-2010, 05:53 AM
why do you include the camaro and vetet in your sig but not the cobalt?

ever line up the cobalt and srt?

you must have missed where i said i like the srt. becasue someone comes in here leaning very much toward the srt in every inconceivable way (and neglects to include the fact they own a cobalt in their sig) it easy to assume they are a fanboi.
forgive me.

only part that catche my eye is that you said they dyno higher especially on a mustang dyno? wtf does it matter what type of dyno? higher is higher and that statement makes me wonder if you know what you are talkign about.

either way, id love to see a stock vs stock lineup. im gona check it out later.
im man anought to eat my words

DiscerningZ32
02-23-2010, 03:33 PM
So let me summarize your posts for you.
-You comment as if running mid 13's in a stock SRT 4 is the norm
-You think all srt4s dyno atleast 229 to the wheels
-You honestly think an SRT 4 is quicker than an SS T/C
-You consider a turbo Shadow, GLHS, and IROC to be quick cars
-You've owned two SRT 4's and have the name "WantaBlueSRT4" on another forum.

You sir, are a nutswinging fanboy. Deny it all you want.

PhillyLS1
02-23-2010, 10:15 PM
why do you include the camaro and vetet in your sig but not the cobalt?

ever line up the cobalt and srt?
Yes. And my SRT-4 pulled. In fact I've never lost to an Cobalt TC or SC. I'll update my sig.

So let me summarize your posts for you.
-You comment as if running mid 13's in a stock SRT 4 is the norm
It is the norm. Unfortunately the SRT-4 world is full of idiots who can't drive. The average time is a 13.7 and over 101

-You think all srt4s dyno atleast 2229 to the wheels
That's not a typo there is it grammar boy?

-You honestly think an SRT 4 is quicker than an SS T/C
Well since the stock record for a Cobalt SS is slower than the stock record for a SRT-4? Yeah. I kinda do.

-You consider a turbo Shadow, GLHS, and IROC to be quick cars
For their time they were. And again they were ahead of their time. Considering you didn't answer a direct question and this is the best you can come up with.

-You've owned two SRT 4's and have the name "WantaBlueSRT4" on another forum.
Wow, you're a moron. My name on SRTForums is PhillyLS1. Try reading numbskull.

You sir, are a nutswinging fanboy. Deny it all you want.
Well I own both, so I can be whatever I want. It comes with the territory.

DiscerningZ32
02-24-2010, 10:55 AM
The turbo dodges were not quick for their time, and you didn't say quick for their time; you said quick. I could care less how many turbo cars GM or doge has made, they both aren't very good at it. The chrysler K engine was crap and the A855 is crap. I would not call the POS K engine proof that dodge knows how to make a turbo I4. There's also nothing like a partially open-deck block on the A855:eyes:.
Also, comparing quickest times of cars proves nothing. When comparing the average times of both cars, the cobalt is quicker.
Maybe you're not a fanboy. Maybe you're just a troll for jumping into someone else's thread and posting crap about your own cars to try and prove some point. SRT4 owners:nono:.

kmdracer
02-24-2010, 12:39 PM
Well, hugger, congrats (belated) on the car. I looked at those in 2009, but went with a Caliber SRT4 for a new DD, as I got it brand new for 18,400. I've never had the CRST4 on the track, so can only go by what is printed on times: low 14 @102ish. I have raced a "stock" Neon form a 50 mph roll, and best him to 120 by 1/2 car.

Now as for my retired DD 99 Z28, I'm just starting to restore it (man does the suspension need a rebuild) but I'm in absolutely no hurry.
My exp. with the Neon SRT4 crowd is that they are kinda snobby, and hate any othe turbo 4 (Esp the CSRT4) I tried to join a certain SRT website to find out info on the CSRT4 and was asked to leave.

06 6.0 GTO
02-24-2010, 01:08 PM
NSRT Handling < Cobalt SS TC handling

EVERY OTHER CATEGORY

NSRT> Cobalt SS TC


Just my 2 cents.

SuperSport346
02-24-2010, 01:15 PM
That's a beautiful Cobalt! I would like to get one of those for a DD in the near future.

hugger1975
02-24-2010, 02:41 PM
thanks guys ^
with the stage kit.....its a whole new DD beast.
love this car. i a 35 andfeel like a kid again.

PhillyLS1
02-24-2010, 10:22 PM
Maybe you're not a fanboy. Maybe you're just a troll for jumping into someone else's thread and posting crap about your own cars to try and prove some point. SRT4 owners:nono:.
Yes, I am trying to prove a point. The point is there are misconceptions about both cars.

But let's use your logic:
Correct me on grammar, then make grammar mistakes.
Call me by the incorrect screen name on another forum, even though my screen name is the same on both LS1Tech and SRTForums.
Call me an SRT-4 fanboi when I own both an SRT-4 and a Cobalt SS
Call me a fanboi when I own one dodge and 4 GM products.
Apparently you know all the averages of all the SRT-4's and Cobalt SS's even though the SRT-4 holds a faster stock time.
The Shelby GLHS wasn't fast even though it was a 14.7 car in 1986. The 1986 Corvette ran a 14.4

Are you trying to prove a point other then you're a fucking moron? In fact... do you even own a car? Or are you just a nutswinger living off the threads of people who own GM products.

People with no cars :nono:

1994formulalt1
02-25-2010, 01:02 AM
lmfao at this thread. i have seen STOCK n-srt4's go 13.5-14's all day.
i test drove one of these but the coupe the other day, very nice car.

mischief
02-25-2010, 01:45 AM
love the car!

DiscerningZ32
02-25-2010, 02:36 PM
Yes, I am trying to prove a point. The point is there are misconceptions about both cars.

But let's use your logic:
Correct me on grammar, then make grammar mistakes.
Call me by the incorrect screen name on another forum, even though my screen name is the same on both LS1Tech and SRTForums.
Call me an SRT-4 fanboi when I own both an SRT-4 and a Cobalt SS
Call me a fanboi when I own one dodge and 4 GM products.
Apparently you know all the averages of all the SRT-4's and Cobalt SS's even though the SRT-4 holds a faster stock time.
The Shelby GLHS wasn't fast even though it was a 14.7 car in 1986. The 1986 Corvette ran a 14.4

Are you trying to prove a point other then you're a fucking moron? In fact... do you even own a car? Or are you just a nutswinger living off the threads of people who own GM products.

People with no cars :nono:

The only car I own right now is a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 ltd.
The last two cars I have owned have both been imports, and the last GM car I owned was over 2 years ago. I sold a 400whp GVR4 about a year ago. You're right buddy; I'm the fanboy.
I'm not the jack ass who came into someone else's thread, wrote nothing about the OP's car, and then went on to talk about the cars that they owned.
That's your trolling ass that did that.
Also, a typo concerning numbers isn't a grammatical error. It's not grammatically incorrect to type 2222hp, (even if you meant to type 222hp).:eyes:
I see YOU managed to make a couple more mistakes, though. Congratulations.
As for the GLHS, again, that is not a fast car. High 14's is not fast. You said nothing about quick for it's time in your original post.

camaro98z28
02-25-2010, 08:25 PM
Did someone just say a SRT4 Neon dynos 239 and 250+ tq on a Mustang Dyno and then traps a whoping 101mph in the 1/4mile? Um Someone fooled you with your numbers and it didn't happen. LMAO

PhillyLS1
02-26-2010, 12:03 AM
lmfao at this thread. i have seen STOCK n-srt4's go 13.5-14's all day.
i test drove one of these but the coupe the other day, very nice car.
According to douchenozzelZ32 you're a liar

The only car I own right now is a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 ltd.
Right. Please drive thru nutswinger

LOL "I used to own" LOL You own an SRT-4 or Turbo Cobalt? No? Then drive thru nutswinger in your pimp Cherokee
Did someone just say a SRT4 Neon dynos 239 and 250+ tq on a Mustang Dyno and then traps a whoping 101mph in the 1/4mile? Um Someone fooled you with your numbers and it didn't happen. LMAO
Whatever you say. You're only helping my cause.

You say dyno'd less? Fine. It still went faster than any cobalt to date. Maybe 2010 will be the cobalt's year? (fingers crossed!)

DiscerningZ32
02-26-2010, 01:31 AM
According to douchenozzelZ32 you're a liar


Right. Please drive thru nutswinger

LOL "I used to own" LOL You own an SRT-4 or Turbo Cobalt? No? Then drive thru nutswinger in your pimp Cherokee

Whatever you say. You're only helping my cause.

You say dyno'd less? Fine. It still went faster than any cobalt to date. Maybe 2010 will be the cobalt's year? (fingers crossed!)

Blah blah blah. I love how you ignored everything else I brought up in my post and focused on something irrelevant.
You're no fun. Trolls rarely are though.:gtfo:
I'm tired of arguing with an ignorant twat who likely can't even properly speak English.
*Unsubscribed.

Sorry for feeding the troll and trashing your thread Hugger1975.:chug:

hugger1975
02-26-2010, 11:36 AM
its all good.

i look forward to meeting up with these consistant 13 second srt's.......
now that im tuned, i should be "even" with ther superior stock power.

unit213
02-26-2010, 11:47 AM
According to douchenozzelZ32 you're a liar


Right. Please drive thru nutswinger

LOL "I used to own" LOL You own an SRT-4 or Turbo Cobalt? No? Then drive thru nutswinger in your pimp Cherokee

Whatever you say. You're only helping my cause.

You say dyno'd less? Fine. It still went faster than any cobalt to date. Maybe 2010 will be the cobalt's year? (fingers crossed!)

Enough. Back on topic...

Nice daily driver! :thumb: Those cars are pretty badass when you crank up the boost. I went for a spin in a friends Cobalt.
His is probably a 13.0 car.

andygil90
02-26-2010, 03:58 PM
The turbo dodges were not quick for their time, and you didn't say quick for their time; you said quick. I could care less how many turbo cars GM or doge has made, they both aren't very good at it. The chrysler K engine was crap and the A855 is crap. I would not call the POS K engine proof that dodge knows how to make a turbo I4. There's also nothing like a partially open-deck block on the A855:eyes:.
Also, comparing quickest times of cars proves nothing. When comparing the average times of both cars, the cobalt is quicker.
Maybe you're not a fanboy. Maybe you're just a troll for jumping into someone else's thread and posting crap about your own cars to try and prove some point. SRT4 owners:nono:.

Owned a SRT-4 for 60k miles with all bolts ons and a gt3076r at 24psi on pump. If your gonna tell me that the engines are weak your a moron.

I now own a 06 GTO but still had more fun in my SRT then I ever did in the goat.

andygil90
02-26-2010, 04:00 PM
Did someone just say a SRT4 Neon dynos 239 and 250+ tq on a Mustang Dyno and then traps a whoping 101mph in the 1/4mile? Um Someone fooled you with your numbers and it didn't happen. LMAO

Seen stock ones trap 103 stock :)

unit213
02-26-2010, 04:10 PM
Owned a SRT-4 for 60k miles with all bolts ons and a gt3076r at 24psi on pump. If your gonna tell me that the engines are weak your a moron.

What part of "Enough" do you not understand?

hugger1975
02-26-2010, 04:10 PM
Seen stock ones trap 103 stock :)

if i see any more posts about the damn srt in my "new car" thread, im gona cry

:(



edit: unit beat me to it

SuperSport346
05-14-2010, 08:58 AM
Don't know if you realize it, but your car is one of 36 T/C Cobalt SS sedans!
http://gmtunersource.com/index.php/blog/news/item/933-08-09-cobalt-ss-turbo-color-breakdown

If you ever decide to sell it, let me know!

hugger1975
05-14-2010, 09:02 AM
Don't know if you realize it, but your car is one of 36 T/C Cobalt SS sedans!
http://gmtunersource.com/index.php/blog/news/item/933-08-09-cobalt-ss-turbo-color-breakdown

If you ever decide to sell it, let me know!

you just made my day for knowing that :)

yup, i figured the tech guys here wuldnt be as excited as me so i nvr really shared that fact.
but it is very very uncommon to see a 4-door SS/tc.
there is about 450 total and as you stated, very few red!

lilbuddy1587
05-15-2010, 10:14 AM
Mine is 1 of 16, do I get a bigger cookie? ;)

Kidding! :thumb:

hugger1975
05-15-2010, 11:21 AM
Mine is 1 of 16, do I get a bigger cookie? ;)

Kidding! :thumb:


dont be stealing my thunder!!! :lol:


j/k