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99hugcam
10-08-2008, 07:40 AM
I was wondering where can I find a list of jobs as active duty in the air force describing each one and the length of tech school, asvab requirements, etc.? Do they make such a list?
Also, Im really wanting to do something in healthcare. I was thinking maybe surgical physicians assistant, or er meds. Is there anything close to a tech school or any kind of training along those lines?
Thanks for any help, you guys always give me all sorts of great info and have helped me alot so far!

slowmc
10-08-2008, 07:56 AM
here ya go try this.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/airforceenlistedjobs/a/afjobs.htm

Duffster
10-08-2008, 08:42 AM
As a former active duty recruiter and currently on recruiting duty (two separate things), my advice to you, is to not look at any list of jobs. This being based on the notion that if you see a job you like, you MIGHT NOT be qualified for it. Disqualifications are numerous for our (military) jobs and could range from color-blindness to hearing issues and much more. The recruiters should not promise you a job because they don't have direct access (normally) to the list of open jobs and again can't give you a physical to tell you if you qualify. The classifier at MEPS is the person that does this job. Good luck (I retire in 29 days).

babydeuce
10-08-2008, 11:30 AM
I was wondering where can I find a list of jobs as active duty in the air force describing each one and the length of tech school, asvab requirements, etc.? Do they make such a list?
Also, Im really wanting to do something in healthcare. I was thinking maybe surgical physicians assistant, or er meds. Is there anything close to a tech school or any kind of training along those lines?
Thanks for any help, you guys always give me all sorts of great info and have helped me alot so far!

4N031- USAF Med Tech EMT-B
4N131 - Surgical Tech

Any AFSC that Starts with a 4 is medical, there are 15 total.

Jack

slowmc
10-08-2008, 02:16 PM
4X is medical
4Y is dental

99hugcam
10-10-2008, 10:59 AM
slowmc, thanks! That was a great link. Tons of info. I have another question. Say for instance you become a dr in the military, do you still get normal military pay? Im just curious as to what your incentive might be seeing you could make alot more money as a civilian im assuming?
My recruiter told me that once your out of tech school if you live on base you get your own room, kitchen, bath, etc. I read on that site that you have your own room but share the rest w/ 4 other people? Does it just depend on where you are? Is it hard to get a housing allowance? I am single right now.
Also, I have been starting to run alot lately and I was wondering if anyone has any advice as far as cramping up! I have been working out heavy for over 5 years now, I just never did much cardio. I drink alot of water, almost 2 gallons/day and just sip it when im running but I still cramp up. Thanks again

slowmc
10-10-2008, 12:52 PM
Well if your a doctor in the military you are an officer. And officers make quite a bit more money than enlisted. But a far as special duty Im pretty sure they get a extra monthly.

Once you get out of tech school you will live on base in the dorms. The dorms are pretty decent from what I have ever seen. You will most likely have a "suite-mate" that you share a bathroom with. But you will have your own room with your bed, sink, and refrigerator/microwave. And as far a a kitchen, You will prolly have a day-room or two on each floor of the dorms. They usually have a big TV with cable and pool table of something. Ive never seen a dorm with a kitchen. But Ive heard some of the nicer bases with new dorms have one that you share with 3 other people. So that all just depends on where you get stationed.

Plan on living in the dorms til your an E-4, unless you get married or the dorms are all full and you get lucky to be one of the people that get to live off base(hardly ever happens). So for about 2 1/2 years you will live on base in the dorms. Then once you make E-4 you will get to move off base and give you single rate Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH). Which will be enough to get an apartment by yourself or you can get a roomate and just put the rest of your BAH in your pocket.

As far cramping up. If its in your legs trying eating bananas. The potassium always helped my legs. And also stretch. If its your stomach then make sure you are hydrated and once your body gets used to the running and cardio, it should go away.

If you have any other questions I am happy to help. PM me or whatever.

99hugcam
10-20-2008, 09:16 PM
So while living on dorms your still under strict rools and such? I was reading another thread, and they said something about no girl visitors, limit on alcohol amounts, and curfews? What if you have a girlfriend but soon to be wife? She cant stay w/ u? I guess what im asking is you cant really live a normal live untill you live off base? And even then, how is that like? I have been really mislead by my recruiter if that is the case. I was to told that since of my associates degree I will start out e3. What does it take to become e4?

I am trying to get my master in something like a physicans assistant or similar. If I choose a job like this http://usmilitary.about.com/od/airforceenlistedjobs/a/afjob4n1x1.htm would this help me at all? Will I have time to go to school while working this as my job? How long are the work days in the military? Depend on job?

I just want to make the most of the time im in. Is there a program where I can my daily work can count towards a specific degree? And if i do start school are what if end up getting moved in the middle of a semester? How does that work?

Sorry, im just really confused on what to do.
Thanks again.

brad8266
10-21-2008, 09:28 AM
Its not like that, you can have visitors, male or female, I ran through tons of girls in my barracks room :pimp:. We never had an alcohol limit and no curfew. When I was 19 I had a barracks room but used to stay at this girls house off post every night because I hated living in the barracks. I was in the army.

To make E4 all you haver to do is stick around for about 2 years and you can pick it up sooner if you stand out in a good way.

So while living on dorms your still under strict rools and such? I was reading another thread, and they said something about no girl visitors, limit on alcohol amounts, and curfews? What if you have a girlfriend but soon to be wife? She cant stay w/ u? I guess what im asking is you cant really live a normal live untill you live off base? And even then, how is that like? I have been really mislead by my recruiter if that is the case. I was to told that since of my associates degree I will start out e3. What does it take to become e4?

I am trying to get my master in something like a physicans assistant or similar. If I choose a job like this http://usmilitary.about.com/od/airforceenlistedjobs/a/afjob4n1x1.htm would this help me at all? Will I have time to go to school while working this as my job? How long are the work days in the military? Depend on job?

I just want to make the most of the time im in. Is there a program where I can my daily work can count towards a specific degree? And if i do start school are what if end up getting moved in the middle of a semester? How does that work?

Sorry, im just really confused on what to do.
Thanks again.

J2Pharren1
10-21-2008, 09:51 AM
1 Tango.

Do it.

slowmc
10-21-2008, 02:12 PM
For the 3-4 months your in tech school you wont be able to have any girls or alcohol. But once you get done with that, anything goes really at your dorm room.

E-3 to E-4 is over 2 years. About 2 years 4 months.

With that job, it seems like it will be like 9-5. Except when your deployed. So that should give you alot of time to go to school and get your education.

And here is another thing once you get in to look at. It lets you go to school full time while doing ROTC and getting paid E-5 pay. Getting paid and going to school, cant beat that. And since you already have your associates you would be a really good canidate.
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/airforcetrng/a/aecp.htm

slowmc
10-21-2008, 02:15 PM
And with getting moved during a semester. With most deployments and PCSing in the Air Force you know at least 4-6 months prior. But thats not the case everytime but I would say a short notice deployment wont happen 95% of the time.

99hugcam
10-21-2008, 06:19 PM
What does an rotc course consist of? I guess you have to attend a school that offers it? Is sounds too good to be true! What are the down sides of the AECP? Is it hard to get accepted? This sounds very familiar to the sta-21 the navy recuiter told me about. Will I be reserve for a determinid amount of time after you earn your degree?
How does that work w/ me wanting a masters, they only allow 3 years? I am 24 right now and I read something about an age cutoff but didn't specify what that age was?
Thanks again slow mc
Also, will you most likely have a roommate the whole time you are in the dorm?

slowmc
10-23-2008, 11:39 AM
In the dorms during tech school you will prolly have one. But once you go to your first base you will not have one.

You have to be under 30 by the time you go for the board and able to commission before 35. So that wouldnt be a problem at all for you. While you are doing AECP you are still active duty. And still get active pay. And say you come in as an E-3 if you get accepted you will be getting E-5 pay (cant beat that). It really does sound too good to be true when I first read about it. I guess the only catch is there are certain majors if you look at that list. And You go to school during the summer semester. You just have to go to a school that offers AF ROTC. And I personally dont think it would be too hard for you since you already have your associates and that looks REAL good! With the masters they will probably only let you get your bachelors and then send you to Officer Training School (OTS). Then once you get done with that and back to regualr duty you will be able to continue school.

ROTC is really just a class during college. You go in and learn about that military and what-not. maybe someone can tell you a little more about ROTC since I never been there.

99hugcam
10-23-2008, 06:12 PM
So say I was to get accepted into aecp. How long untill you can get into the program? Right out of basic? Im sure you don't get to pick which school either do you? So if all went well and I attain a bachelors degree what do you do the remaining of your enlistment? Thats assuming I didn't re-enlist. And also, since your staying at a school will you recieve a bah?
Thank you

slowmc
10-24-2008, 11:44 AM
You would be able to do it once you get done with tech school. So with that job you want and after basic. Once you get to your first duty station...so approximately 6 months from when you join. You get to pick the school you go to also. And once you get your bachelors you go to Officer Training School and become and officer, you are no longer elisted. So then you would finish out your term 4-6 years and then either re-up or get out. And while you are at school you will get BAH at the E-5 rate.

99hugcam
10-24-2008, 12:54 PM
so what if you get your bachelors, then go to ots, and you still have time left in your term? Just out of curiousity, why would they try and make you an officer if there is a possibilty that you may get out? Whats in it for them? Do you have to be reserve or guard when its all over?
Thanks

slowmc
10-24-2008, 03:34 PM
Well its just a special program, not everybody can do it. Once you comission you will have to sign up for 4-6 years. And once you are done with 4-6 you can get out and go on with your life. And no you do not have to continue to be in guard or reserve.

99hugcam
10-24-2008, 05:52 PM
Sorry, what do you mean once I comission? Enlist? So would it really matter what I went to tech school for since im going to try for the aecp anyway? I mean i want to go into surgical tech anyways im just wondering if there is a tech school you take for the aecp program? What are the chances of me getting into this anyway?
Also, you said I will be making e5 pay, will that be e5 bah also!
When during this path would I find out if I qualify for this also?
Thank you so much for the help. I hope this is attainable cuz im damn excited!

slowmc
10-24-2008, 08:58 PM
When you "enlist" you are enlisted. That is where the "E" with rank comes in. (ex: E-3). Then you apply for AECP and go to college and the go to OTS. Then you "commission" and you become and officer as an O-1. You are now longer enlisted. The difference between the two is officers make more money then enlisted. Officers have to have a bachelors. Officers are more of a leader and usually run shit. Where enlisted are the workhorses. Officers have to put up with more shit tho. When someone in their shop fucks up, they get the beating usually.

Yes you will get E-5 BAH also.

And so far what you have said, you are qualified for it. You just have to put in a package for it to make sure you are a good airman and then they make a decision whether they think you will make a good officer.

I would still pick enlisted job you want b/c there is a possibility you could not get AECP. There isnt a Tech school for AECP. AECP is just a program that they offer to get ppl who want to commission. You would be able to apply for it once you have been to your permanent duty station for 1 year.

Also I see that you are from St. Peters. I was from Lebanon, MO and I am station in VA right now. And I know MIZZOU has Air Force ROTC and it meets the requirements of AECP so you could go there if accepted for AECP.

99hugcam
10-25-2008, 01:01 PM
yeah i saw that mizzou has that. Been doin tons of research.
When you say "you are now longer enlisted", is that a stipulation where you have to enlist for 4-6 more years? Active Duty?
What are the +/- of being an officer? Do you get moved around alot? Or since your higher ranked do you pretty much get to pick where you at?
I know it sounds kinda gay, but I would love to do the nursing program through the aecp, then continue to get my masters to become a nurse anesthetist.
My ? is, what are they going to have my doing as an officer?
Would taking a tech school related w/ surger help me?
In post 16 said once you get you become an officer you are no longer enlisted? What if you have time remaining in your enlistment?

99hugcam
10-25-2008, 01:08 PM
Sorry, I am trying to gather as much info as possible. This pretty much determines my future! I just dont understand why they would go through all that trouble to get you a degree and make you an officer? By the time you do all that your enlistment would pretty much be over? (assuming 4 years.) Where is the catch? I guess they assume you would make more money as an officer than as a civilian? I cant tell the future, but if I get my m.s. in nurse anasthesia im gettin out! Nothing against the military, just the money and not having to deal w/ what i have heard the bs of the military.
Thank you

slowmc
10-25-2008, 04:50 PM
My bad I meant "you are NO longer enlisted." They just forget about what u had left on your enlistment. After AECP you just do 4-6 as an officer.
Officers tend yo deploy more than enlisted do, but not too much more. The PCS's (Permanent Change of Station) are about that same on both sides. Determining where you PCS to is the same. You have a list of about 12 bases (6 in the US, 6 outside the US, like Europe and Asia). And they try to get you to where u want to go but ultimately its the needs of the AF first.
You could do the AECP and become a nurse. During ROTC you make a list of the jobs you would like and the try to get one of your top choices. Then if you got a nursing job you would go to an Officer Tech School for the nursing career field. Then after your tech school you will go to a permanent station and go to work as a nurse.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/officerjobs/a/46xx.htm

99hugcam
10-26-2008, 09:14 PM
I read on that link that there is a nurse anesthetist job for officers. Would they pay for me or train me to get the masters I would need for this position?
I know there are tons of variables, but im just tryin to put together sometime of timeline.
BMT
Tech
aecp
ots
work as an officer nurse ( would I just get my masters for the anesthetist job on my own time?)
Assuming all goes well, is this about right? Also, are men who go into healthcare looked down upon? I don't want to be a nurse, but an anesthetist ultimately.
Thanks

slowmc
10-27-2008, 10:54 AM
Your timeline seems pretty good. I would think that you would get your masters on your own time but the military might help you since you would go into a job after completing it. They are alot of men in healthcare in the military. Dont worry about any of that. Plus that is where all the hot chicks work on base. So you are set.

99hugcam
10-27-2008, 04:51 PM
slowmc, if you don't mind me asking what branch are you in and what is your job?
Once again, thanks for all the help.

slowmc
10-28-2008, 07:40 AM
Im in the Air Force at Langley AFB, VA. I do supply.