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Old 04-18-2016, 03:06 PM
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u said letting off was problem lol
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Originally Posted by superglide9375
u said letting off was problem lol
lol good call
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Originally Posted by spawne32
Right, I did go back and rewire it again this morning and the throttle position and desired throttle position in HPT now match up correctly. However I do not have a TN colored wire at PIN C on my oem connector, i ahve RD/BLK. However I followed the same pinout setup and ignored the colors. I think that if it was wired improperly it wouldnt even drive at part throttle.
Correct, let's hope it's just a small physical imperfection like it was in my case. Shame to finally have a top end capable of handling the cam setup to it's full potential and not go wot
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Originally Posted by 91parkave
Correct, let's hope it's just a small physical imperfection like it was in my case. Shame to finally have a top end capable of handling the cam setup to it's full potential and not go wot
Well it does go WOT, it goes WOT real real hard, just when you let off, thats when it goes into engine power reduced. That's what makes me think that its binding as it tries to close it again from fully open.
Old 04-18-2016, 09:11 PM
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Well, it is binding, but appears to be internally binding. Seems to be random, and only above a certain point, thats why WOT triggers it. As it comes back to close, it seems to get stuck about 3/4 of the way momentarily and jitters its way back closed.
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found some important diagnostic info about the codes, this explains why when I test the TB sometimes i get P2101 by itself and sometimes I get that and P1516.

P1516
The indicated throttle position does not match the predicted throttle position for more than 0.5 second.
P2101
The indicated throttle position does not match the predicted throttle position for more than 0.3 second.
P2119
The ECM determines that the throttle blade did not return to the rest position within 720 milliseconds.
P2176
The difference between the predicted and the actual throttle position is more than a calibrated amount for more than 1.5 seconds.
Old 04-19-2016, 12:33 AM
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Better clean it up something proper and return it. Sounds like you received a one of the tbs that smacked the ground a couple of times before shipment
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still waiting on the throttle body to arrive to replace it, but here are some updated pics

this is my new vacuum setup for the purge solenoid and brake booster hose, 3/8" T fitting and a 1/2 to 3/8 heater hose adapter all connected to the quick disconnect port on the intake. This way I dont have to continue chopping fittings off.



my previous crankcase vent setup that I used on the LS4 manifold has switched sides, i still need to put some sort of breather filter on the rear valve cover where it brings in fresh air.



here is the new 60* intake elbow from silicone intakes, much better fit then the 45* even the one that came with the airbox never fit this well. Now the maf adapter section goes straight into the airbox instead of sideways. I have a airraid composite maf adapter on the way in an attempt to see if i can get better IAT's. Although I believe it has more to do with heatsoak in general of the intake and throttle body. I will be ordering insulation wrap for the intake and one of these...
Amazon.com: DEI (010454) 1' x 4" Titanium Pipe Heat Shield with Stainless Steel Clamp: Automotive Amazon.com: DEI (010454) 1' x 4" Titanium Pipe Heat Shield with Stainless Steel Clamp: Automotive
which will be wrapped around the crossover pipe on top of the already existing heat wrap.
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Yup, yup, yup. Pics of the power steering pump please lol.
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Why are you venting to atmosphere? I hope you at least put a check valve if your thinking about using a breather on the valve cover
Old 04-20-2016, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 91parkave
Why are you venting to atmosphere? I hope you at least put a check valve if your thinking about using a breather on the valve cover
It's not venting to atmosphere, the other vc is sucking in fresh air, i just gotta order a breather filter for it so its clean air coming in, instead of outside air.
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no dice on the new throttle body, im curious to anyone out there who has done the throttle swap, if they can get me the following parameters to compare against.

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looks as though i am exceeding 100% based on the voltage limits of the LS2 throttle body
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chcked some more service manuals, looks like the limit is 4.38v or 88% absolute throttle position. So seems to be fine, im putting in an order for an LS2 silver blade, hopefully that solves the problem. Shame though the LS3 throttle body does make a nice whistle.
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Unlikely but could the throttle position sensors be bad in both throttle bodies? Is there a way to test them or is that what HP tuners is actually doing?
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Originally Posted by spawne32
chcked some more service manuals, looks like the limit is 4.38v or 88% absolute throttle position. So seems to be fine, im putting in an order for an LS2 silver blade, hopefully that solves the problem. Shame though the LS3 throttle body does make a nice whistle.
What are the limits of the LS2 silver blade TB?
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Originally Posted by rottonj
Unlikely but could the throttle position sensors be bad in both throttle bodies? Is there a way to test them or is that what HP tuners is actually doing?
HPT is just reading the outputs, as far as I can tell the TPS sensors are accurate, seems to be the ECM thats confused. I have a feeling its the reversed rotation that's mixing it up. If it does this with the LS2 throttle body, ill be totally lost about how to fix this.
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Originally Posted by rottonj
What are the limits of the LS2 silver blade TB?
Old 04-20-2016, 06:23 PM
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Probably cheaper to rent a car then to keep throwing throttle bodies at it lol. I wouldn't buy that silver one yet, see if someone local has one for you to try maybe?
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Originally Posted by rottonj
Probably cheaper to rent a car then to keep throwing throttle bodies at it lol. I wouldn't buy that silver one yet, see if someone local has one for you to try maybe?
normally i would, but given the nature of drive by wire systems, i prefer new.


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