tspence45

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Well, I've been looking more into cams lately, since a buddy of mine, who has been to school for motor building, has told me he'd help me out with it. I was looking for a nice mid-range cam, between the CC503, and the 306. And, I think I found just the cam. The LE 232/240 .584"/.584" 108LSA. I was just wondering if anyone on here is running this cam, and if anyone has any video clips of it's idle. Also, does anyone know if Lloyd's lift numbers are with 1.5 rockers, or 1.6's? I ask, because I'm going to be running it on 1.7RR's. If his numbers are with 1.6's, I should be fine, since I'll be running the Patriot Gold spring kit(.650" max lift).

blake110106

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Ive been wondering on his lift also. Im looking at running his 228/235/ .560/.560 109lsa cam on 1.6's is his lift is will 1.5 then that put that cam at .597 lift. I just hope the duration isnt high enough with that lift that it would cause a PTV clearance issue.

With the cam your looking at you'd be close to a safety point I wouldnt want to go over(.630) if his cam lift is based on 1.6 rocker with a 1.7 rocker(.620"). If its based on a 1.5 rocker then the 1.6 rocker will have slightly more lift (.623") That would be the only thing to worry me tho

za355tx

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His cams are based on a 1.6 rocker.

blake110106

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Thats good news!

96lt1m6

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PTV clearence should not be an issue,the only issue i see is your installed spring height needs to be checked closely

tspence45

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Thanks for the info guys. Now, I just need some clips. I bet it's got a pretty nasty idle, being on a 108LSA and all. That's what I want, a nice, lopey cam, but usable on stock heads.

LM97Z

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If you plan on that cam, you really need to call Lloyd, i'm sure it'll be a bit much, he spec'd out a cam for mine on a 109 LSA, said it'll pull good to 61-6200, have a choppy idle, but still work very well with stock heads, also was worth 10 & 10 (at the wheels) over the cc503, that cam your looking at is for his LE2 heads, & i'm sure it'll pull till 6600+, might be a bit much for a stock bottom end, i would personally stay in the 224/230 range on a 109-110 LSA, 226-232 @ 50 tops. This is the cam he spec'd for me with stock heads, but would still work great with LE1 heads (another 30 rwhp) if i upgrated later.

565/565-223/230 @ 50 on a 109 LSA, (1.6 rockers), 1700-6100

Great torgue & great in the mid-range with top-end pull.

tspence45

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Yeah, I was thinking it could also be a bit much. I've also been kind of eye-balling his 228/235 .560"/.560" 109LSA cam 1900-6200rpm. In the description it says it's the best choice for a stock bottom end. In the description for the 232/240 cam, it still just says 2200-6400. I doubt that extra 200rpm is really going to make that big of a difference.

joelster

You guys can't just throw those springs on a stock head and assume they will be good for .630" of lift. They have to be installed at the correct height to be able to handle .630" of lift too. When we put my springs on my car, my builder didn't like how much clearance there was at maximum lift, so we ordered a set of locks that increase the install height slightly. It is most definitly something you'll want to check out.

AChotrod

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The specs you posted look to be for 1.6 RRs.
But the cam I just got from him the cam card was for 1.5 Rockers. LOL! I thought i got the wrong cam at first.

Elliott's94Z

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You did get the wrong cam actually. I sent Lloyd my stock one and told him to send it to you wrapped up in his box

LM97Z

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That would be a better choice, just remember, even that cam is going to need gears to really shine, i would still call Lloyd, find out what springs would work for that cam, these are one of the springs he recammened i use for the cam he spec'd for me, i'm sure they will also work with the 228/235, they are a "strong" single spring from crane, the plus side, there around 100.00 bucks . He assured me they would work & hold up great. ( crane-98215-16), BTW, they will work with your stock retainers/locks too, but like any spring, you still need to check installed height for proper seat/open pressure.

I think you'll be much happier with the 228/235 cam, it'll still sound nasty on that 109 LSA, & pull like a **** in the upper RPMs, mid-range will be awsome without sacraficing too much bottom end torgue, & if you decide to upgrade to even the LE1 heads later, should be worth 40 rwhp i'm sure.

ss.slp.ls1

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^^^I would listen to this guy, he makes a lot of sense.
Also, there is no reason to run 1.7 rr's with that large of a cam. I would stick with the tried and the true, 1.6 CC promagnum rr's.

Elliott's94Z

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+1 for the 228/235 on the 109 lsa...be a great choice and a strong runner

3DFORMULA

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That'd be rotten.

AChotrod

iTrader: (17)

Sure as hell sounds good with a stock cam then!!!!! Good deal!!

NightTrain66

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Those 98215 springs are a Howards Cams spring part #. They are Electro polished and have good pressure. I would not bat an eye about using them on a cam with less than .570 lift, lmid 220 duration and less than 6300 RPM. They will work with the 223/230 .565/.565 cam with no worries BUT I would suggest a different spring for the 228/235.

Only reason to use the Howards 98215 spring is if you are on a tight budget and running a small cam. I would use the Crane dbl springs that I use on my LE1 heads (or Patriot Gold extremes or PAC 1218 bee hives) with the 228/235 cam.

Lloyd

bombebomb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jifx49pnUIA
sounds clip of a very similer cam
231/239 forget exact life with rockers something like 565/585 110 lsa
As always the video's never do cammed guys justice.

ks my ss

here is mine. its a slightly larger custom fms with more lift. its a stock bottom end with 2.5" duals

http://www.mofbody.com/blkchevyz/brian.MOV