jaywalkersw

Just curious to see what types of gains you got from switching from pacesetter LTs to the LPP LTs.

Is it possible to get the emissions hook-ups welded on to the LPPs? Price guess to have this done?

Elliott's94Z

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Yes, you can have the emissions hook up put on. I looked into it at one point and a shop said it would run me around 30-50 bucks. As far as gains over the Pacesetters, I would guess the LPP's would be good for another 5-8. Just a guess though

Magnet

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i would guess you wouldn't gain anything... but ya never know...

Elliott's94Z

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You don't think there would be a slight gain going from a 1 3/4 to a stepped 1 7/8? Never know...would be kinda cool to see the two on the dyno

BTC

Most everything I've read indicated no advantage of 1 3/4"-1 7'8" stepped headers versus straight 1 3/4" headers. I'm sure not everyone would agree, and there could be dependencies based upon your specific application. There are some direct comparisons out there, but they were hard to find, and few between.

LSWHO

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I would guess 0, but I have LPPs so if it there's a gain, I got it!

djjab57

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i thought about this as well but dont think it would have been worth the cost to have them recoated IMO

ss.slp.ls1

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I think you might have a slight SOTP gain in swapping to the stepped headers with high flow merge collectors. I would do the swap for the looks and durability, any gains (if any) would just be a plus.

AChotrod

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I dont know if there actually is gains but the concept seems to be good and Ill take any advantage I can get! Plus alot of cars are making great power with them

Elliott's94Z

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Your new "SIG" pic is beautiful

jaywalkersw

Thanks for all the input. Headers are my next mod and just weighing my options. I am not wanting to go much beyond the PS / LPP price point and wanted the best bang I can get. My only hang up on not getting the LPP is that I still want the emissions hook-ups which is why I was looking at the PS.

So you guys think it is possible to get the hook-ups welded on to the LPPs for <$100? I haven't checked with any shops but just curious. If so I would prefer the LPPs because they are stainless.

ss.slp.ls1

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I would really try to ditch the emissions crap, they just get in the way, and I HATE hooking up that stupid EGR tube in the back. Yes you can get them welded on for not that much money if you insist. The LPP headers are nice pieces and should last forever being SS.

RedLT1Z

You'd gain some but not enough to justify the $$$ unless you had long term plans for the car. You might lose a little low end torque and pick it up up top.

ThreeHonks

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I'd say you might gain a very small amount of power with a high horsepower application, but a cam only or bolt on car will prbly gain nothing

jaywalkersw

I would ditch the emissions stuff as I live in a non emissions state right now but I will probably be moving 2 times in the next 3 years and don't know if I will end up in an emissions state or non. At least with the air/egr still working I could probably get away with a emissions test as long as I got some cats welded in the ory. If I don't end up in an emissions location I plan on just running the ory.

I would hate to go through all the hassle installing headers only to find out I cant get a state inspection sticker in 1-2 years.

As far as my plans for the car... I eventually would like to get a small->mid range cam and perhaps a few other mild things, but this won't be a race car or a high HP application.

ss.slp.ls1

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Any exhaust shop can weld the fittings on. IF you are going to move to an emmissions state, weld on the fittings then, not now.

Magnet

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you could always go for the stainless off of that one auction site bc they come with emissions... well actually im thinking LS1.. i'm not sure for the LT1's

rufrntn

does anyone know the difference performance wise between long tube headers and shorty headers?

AChotrod

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Thanks!!

Elliott's94Z

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Night and day...LT's will really open up your top end. Hp gains are around 15rwh if not more