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Old 01-13-2009, 11:24 PM
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Default Any guesses at power/time for my AI setup?

Ok so i'm tryin to see what other people think i'll run with the new set up.

First off last year my best run was a 13.086 and that was with the cold air, no cats, hooker cat-back, 3200vig stall, and et streets on stock rims.

Now for the new set-up

Motor-
38k mile stock shortblock
AI 226/234 .569/.570 110lsa cam
Compression ratio should be around 11.5:1
1.6 Pro-mags roller rockers
918 valve springs
Heads have a port job done locally, no other work such as port and polish
pacesetter coated long tubes
will either be running open y pipe or dumped x pipe
DYNO Tune by ION at Speed Inc
EWP
Cloyes double roller timing chain
Stock TB with airfoil

Suspension/wheels-
Comp Eng 3-way adj REAR drag shocks on hardest setting
Adj. LCA's
Adj. Torque Arm
Spohn DRAG rear sway bar (hopefully lol)
8 wide Weld Pro-stars out back wrapped in 275/50 ET Street Radials
3.5 wide either greg welds or pro-start up front

Rear end-
10 bolt with 4.10's and LPW Girdle

Weight Reduction-
!A/C
!front sway bar and brackets
!All emmisions junk
!back seats
!passenger seat
and i'll be on welds all the way around compared to stockers...



I'm thinkin easily low 12's with everything that i did this winter when i ran a 13.0 last year on stock tune and COMPLETELY stock motor with like 4 bolt ons...

As for dyno numbers i'm an a4 so i know they're gonna be crap but maybe 350hp?

Anyone and everyone, let's hear your guesses, I wanna see if my guess is close to other peoples....

Thanks!!

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Old 01-13-2009, 11:26 PM
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370-380 locked converter. Bottom 12's maybe clip 11's with weight reduction all depending on 60fts. That's my guess
Old 01-13-2009, 11:32 PM
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Well i'll have lighter weight rims (pro-stars all the way around compared to stockers), and i forgot to add in there i took out the A/C and all the emmisions stuff, along with some random brackets, May end up takin the pass seat out for at the track also...
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Also i cut mostly low 1.8x 60fts and had a few 1.79's in there with the old set-up
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I'd guess around 380rwhp, since the heads have a light port job. As for the times, I'd guess high 11's, if the 10 bolt can handle that power with 4.10's and DR's. I'm hoping that I'll be able to make it up to see your first runs with the setup in person.
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I'd be happy with like 350-370rwhp and my goal is high 11's so i'm really shooting for that.... As for the 10 bolt, i picked up that one on qcaaf for 50 bucks cause i know mine wont like the new set-up haha. I was looking into building up the 10bolt with axle tube supports, axles, and a spool maybe? I dunno.... haha
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Oh and on track days i plan on taking the cat back off so that is more weight reduction, i'll be running just the y-pipe or x-pipe dumped...
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^^^^Go x-pipe. You won't regret it. You'll thank me later. lol jk. Run one of these, so you won't have to take the exhaust off everytime. You just uncap the cutouts. http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS/759968/10002/-1
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The reason i want to do an x-pipe dumped is so i take all the weight from the catback off. And they sound sick (see video below) i want to mock up this x-pipe on this guys car, you can see when he takes it off. i bet it could only weigh maybe 10-15 lbs.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y09Ob...eature=related
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My guess is in the 360-380whp and high 11's. Also, I'm no expert, but for the rear drag shocks, wouldn't you want the setting to be at the softest for better weight transfer?
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well alot of people say that you want alot of weight transfer but i've talked to shon at herron performance and a few other suspension experts and you want the shocks on the hardest setting that you can still get traction simply because if you have ALOT of weight tranfer and you *** end drops alot that is wasting energy squatting then moving forward, you want it lunge forward instantely and not squat then lunge forward. I dont know if the hardest setting will work for me and it may just blow the tires off but i'll have to try it then if it doesn't work i'll put them on the medium setting. It's about testing them and finding the hardest setting that you can still get traction at. Understand how i explained that? lol, kinda difficult haha
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That makes perfect sense. Try and find a vid of madman's black bitch leaving the line its a perfect example of a car that just goes forward, no wasted energy.
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Exaxtly, no squating just forward motion...
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It should go 11's with no problems.
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I think everyone is guessing too high with dyno numbers but you should run in the high 11s if you get all the kinks ironed out and you can hook. I will say 340 rwhp, but dyno numbers mean nothing.

our mods are very similar, same weight reduction, touched up stock heads, same gears, except you have more suspension work done, Ive got a bigger stall (yank PT4000) and I have a considerably larger cam (242/250). I really want to see what your car runs.
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I wouldn't worry about the dyno numbers. It should go 11.80s-11.90s I would guess
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Ya i know being a stalled a4 my dyno numbers are gonna be garbage, i'm just hoping for high 11's
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That depends if the tuner locks it or not. That's what i said locked 370-380
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Alright i guess i'll have to talk to ION about that. Anyone else got any predictions??
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11.8s no prob a very similar setup like yours did that


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