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Old 03-10-2009, 11:54 AM
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ok for all of you searching if you can drive your car with no tune after CC503 cam only set-up
yes and no
in closed loop the car will feel about 80% good
in open loop don't even think about it (runs extremely rich, bucks, misses, pops)
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what..
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Originally Posted by HottestZ28
ok for all of you searching if you can drive your car with no tune after CC503 cam only set-up
yes and no
in closed loop the car will feel about 80% good
in open loop don't even think about it (runs extremely rich, bucks, misses, pops)
I would figure that it would not have any good manners at all, but I would have thought that it would have at least been drivable. But I did get my mail order tune the same time I got my cam installed, so I wouldn't know.
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Yea what Chavez said i am lost man
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Originally Posted by RED94Z28
Yea what Chavez said i am lost man
He is saying, for those of you who are interested to know if you can drive a CC503 cam-only LT1 untuned, the answer is yes and no.
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cc503 and no tune is perfectly driveable. we swapped a 96 ss imp motor (and trans +3k stall) into my dad's 72 el camino. it has cc503, crane gold RRs, and long tubes...on the stock tune. we drove it from indy to evansville with 0 problems. it surged ever so slightly when coming to a stop and was running very, very rich, but i think it drove great on the stock tune. it did not miss, buck or pop, even under near wot.

i've driven/ridden in "tuned" ls1 cars and were more difficult to tolerate.
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I put a very very mild cam in my car (.480"/.488") with 1.6 rocker tips.. My car would surge so bad that it would die sitting at stop lights ocasionally. After my mail order tune I have had zero problems at all. I could not imagine a 503 cam on a stock tune...
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Originally Posted by s346k
cc503 and no tune is perfectly driveable. we swapped a 96 ss imp motor (and trans +3k stall) into my dad's 72 el camino. it has cc503, crane gold RRs, and long tubes...on the stock tune. we drove it from indy to evansville with 0 problems. it surged ever so slightly when coming to a stop and was running very, very rich, but i think it drove great on the stock tune. it did not miss, buck or pop, even under near wot.

i've driven/ridden in "tuned" ls1 cars and were more difficult to tolerate.
you got lucky!!
I would say it did run "ok" at WOT but would instantly start dipping, going in the 10.5 to 1 or lower Air/Fuel at cruising lower then 2000 RPM area
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I drove mine around for about a week before I tuned the car. Didn't really have too many problems except down low in the rpm. It seemed to hesitate quite a bit, but higher in the rpm it was ok.
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Ran my old cc503 for I think 500 miles before I had it tuned because I needed to break my gears in but ran fine for me. Even better after being tuned. Every car is different tho!
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could it be a OBDI vs. OBDII thing maybe, I def can't drive it that rich I know that regardless of how it runs
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Hrmm...I ran mine without a tune for about a month. It seemed ok to me. It ran about a million times better after the tune though, lol. But it never backfired, bucked, surged etc..., it was just rich.
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ive been running mine without tune since december and its been fine put 1600 miles on it since the cam. just been waiting to tune it untill i put my 3.90 gear in
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mine drove fine untuned
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i drove a cc306 around for two months before i got a tune
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i had a cc503 in my 93 and it sucked driving with the stock tune. got a dyno tune and picked up over 40 rwhp and near stock drivability.
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Originally Posted by 9sec93
i had a cc503 in my 93 and it sucked driving with the stock tune. got a dyno tune and picked up over 40 rwhp and near stock drivability.
93's are just weird...................... JK
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It idles at 600-625 solidly and drove well the first trip around the block. Came back to the garage and went lightly on the throttle around like 1200-1500 rpm and let the clutch out and was alright till I leaned into the throttle then it started pop, pop, popping (not a miss more like incomplete burn) and had to rev it up to kinda clean it out. I would think if something was wrong it wouldn't idle nice or run well in closed loop right?
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I had a little cam surge at low rpm's but nothing major, drives awesome now after the tune.
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pardon my language but driving around on an untuned cammed engine is retarded. it defeats the purpose all together


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