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Why is the head gasket blocking the lifters?

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Old 04-17-2009, 07:36 PM
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Default Why is the head gasket blocking the lifters?

I just removed the rockers and pushrods and i thought i could just use a magnet to remove the lifters but there's a gasket material blocking the removal.
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If you haven't pulled the Intake you have alot more than just the Gasket blocking them..lol

You have to pull the Intake and then remove the Spider Plate and Lifter Retainers to get to the Lifters.
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haha, yeah man, the intake manifold needs to come off to remove the lifters. no other way around it.

heres what your engine will look like when the manifold is removed

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lol ohh okay nevermind on that
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Okay so it seems im removing the intake
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Originally Posted by red-_-z28
Okay so it seems im removing the intake
Be sure to be liberal with the RTV on the front and back edges, but not TOO liberal! Otherwise drips of RTV could fall down, get pulverized and sucked into the oil galleries I suggest using some quality RTV as well, not the stuff that comes with the gaskets. Get some of "The Right Stuff".


I guess Ace Hardware sells it too.
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okay thank you!
what is the spider plate?
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its the plate that is holding each dog bone down over the lifter. has three bolts on top of it. Kinda looks like a spider.
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Originally Posted by red-_-z28
what is the spider plate?
You'll know it when you see it..
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Originally Posted by strokin93z
its the plate that is holding each dog bone down over the lifter. has three bolts on top of it. Kinda looks like a spider.
And what is a Dog Bone? It's what the lifters slide through lol

Spider plate is in the middle (light colored steel)


Dog Bone:


Some dog bones also surround the whole lifter body, but I don't see either one being better than the other.

Here's a better pic:

And a suuuper sized version of it:
http://msdproductnews.com/_uploads/p...es/08-1001.jpg
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^ very good pictures Forumla! thanks.
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Originally Posted by strokin93z
^ very good pictures Forumla! thanks.
No prob. I'm a Jedi Master of lol
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Nice pics.. I was going to post pics of my build, but I wasn't on my Computer.

Good looking out.
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dang guys! thanks alot!! so i got the so called Spider off and i had problems with one of the lifters, it wouldnt push in, as if it was jammed! so thats good! do you think that would call a random knocking/clanking sound?
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What do you mean it was jammed..as in the Cup wouldn't move down in the Lifter?
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yes like it wouldn't compress
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so why is the gasket made like that. i tried to look in mine for some issues and cant see nothing from the gaskets. it dont need to be there. i know that. so what is there reason for doing it.
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Originally Posted by 7.0 camaro
so why is the gasket made like that. i tried to look in mine for some issues and cant see nothing from the gaskets. it dont need to be there. i know that. so what is there reason for doing it.
Someone posted before reading the whole thread...


Red: They shouldn't compress easily by hand since they'll have oil in them, which is why they're called Hydraulic lifters (hydraulic roller in this case). Some may be able to get pushed down a bit since some oil could've drained out, but when you get the motor running again they should 'pump up' (fill with oil) again and all is well. As for the sound, um... I guess it could, but there's lots of other things that can cause knocking/clanking noises :\



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