Canton 242-t windage issues?
05-23-2009, 01:45 PM
#1
Canton 242-t windage issues? For those of you running the 242-t pan are you having any windage issues? I'm losing oil pressure at full throttle (goes from 60 to 40ish). I'm running 6 quarts with a long filter (oil level just barley reaches the tip of the dipstick). I did a search on cz28.com before I put it in and people said it was designed to work without the windage tray, and it wouldn't fit over mine so I took it out. Looking back that was probably my mistake, but I figured I would see how everyone else is running their pan. Oil pickup is ~3/8" off the bottom of the pan IIRC.
Oil pressure was also dropping as low as 20psi on the road course so it wasn't exactly doing its job.
Oil pressure was also dropping as low as 20psi on the road course so it wasn't exactly doing its job.
05-23-2009, 03:20 PM
#4
I had same symptoms when my pickup fell off, but it was pressed on. hmm. Maybe put another half a quart in it and see if that helps.
Also, how is the stock shortblock holding up to the AI 200cc heads/cam? Any problems with it and are you revving it to 6500?
Also, how is the stock shortblock holding up to the AI 200cc heads/cam? Any problems with it and are you revving it to 6500?
05-23-2009, 04:13 PM
#7
The pan has a 5 quart capacity and the long oil filter holds almost a quart so I just put 6 in. This is right off their site
"This road race pan is for '86 and newer SBC blocks in '93-'97 F-Bodies. (also fits Impalas) It has a 7-1/2" deep, 12" wide, 8-1/4" long sump for a 6 qt. system capacity. Will work with stock starter. This pan requires one of our pickups."
"This road race pan is for '86 and newer SBC blocks in '93-'97 F-Bodies. (also fits Impalas) It has a 7-1/2" deep, 12" wide, 8-1/4" long sump for a 6 qt. system capacity. Will work with stock starter. This pan requires one of our pickups."
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05-23-2009, 04:34 PM
#8
The pan has a 5 quart capacity and the long oil filter holds almost a quart so I just put 6 in. This is right off their site
"This road race pan is for '86 and newer SBC blocks in '93-'97 F-Bodies. (also fits Impalas) It has a 7-1/2" deep, 12" wide, 8-1/4" long sump for a 6 qt. system capacity. Will work with stock starter. This pan requires one of our pickups."
"This road race pan is for '86 and newer SBC blocks in '93-'97 F-Bodies. (also fits Impalas) It has a 7-1/2" deep, 12" wide, 8-1/4" long sump for a 6 qt. system capacity. Will work with stock starter. This pan requires one of our pickups."
Not 100% sure since it was probably read years ago, but you may want to research and look into that.
05-23-2009, 09:17 PM
#11
I had a similar issue when I first put my canton pan on. I searched all over for the correct fluid amount. I ended up running extra oil and remarking my dipstick. I think I ran about 7 quarts.
I found conflicting answers as to the correct amount of oil and just decided to run extra and be on the safe side.
I found conflicting answers as to the correct amount of oil and just decided to run extra and be on the safe side.
05-24-2009, 02:34 PM
#12
Does canton offer a windage tray for that pan?
My $02 is run a windage tray on whatever pan you use.
05-25-2009, 04:42 AM
#15
Two things, one the capacity of the pan itself is 6qt and 1qt for the filter makes 7 total and if you're running an external engine oil cooler and lines then maybe 1 or 2 more qts.
Second I removed Canton's worthless windage tray and installed a Milodon Diamond Stripper in place of the factory windage tray and I haven't had any issues.
Second I removed Canton's worthless windage tray and installed a Milodon Diamond Stripper in place of the factory windage tray and I haven't had any issues.
05-25-2009, 01:29 PM
#16
Well I just got back from a drive. I added another quart of oil and now its about 1/3" below the A in add on the stock dipstick. It only loses pressure under WOT. I tried free reving it to 6000 and the pressure held fine, put it in gear and stayed at 6k steady and the pressure was fine, but as soon as I go WOT the pressure drops in 2nd and 3rd (only 2 gears I tried), and as soon as I let off and stay at the same RPM the oil pressure comes back up. It goes from 60 to 40 on the stock gauge. Could this somehow be a faulty sending unit? I have a hard time believing none of you have any oil pressure issues but mine cant even hold pressure in a straight line. I don't see how a 3rd gear pull in a 430rwhp car could cause the oil to climb up th back of the pan. Shift points are 6500 and it starts losing pressure around 5000-5500.
05-25-2009, 01:59 PM
#17
If it is the stock sending unit I have a stock one I can send you to try out. (It is used and I can't be sure how acurate it is). Let me know if you want it.
Is that the same amount it dropped before adding the extra oil? Did the extra oil help at all?
Is that the same amount it dropped before adding the extra oil? Did the extra oil help at all?
05-25-2009, 02:14 PM
#18
Extra oil didn't change a thing. Thanks for the offer but I'll probably just pick one up in the store since I'm swapping manifolds Wednesday and see if it helps. I still don't understand how I can have oil pressure issues when people are running this pan with 383-396's without any problems.
05-25-2009, 02:17 PM
#19
Extra oil didn't change a thing. Thanks for the offer but I'll probably just pick one up in the store since I'm swapping manifolds Wednesday and see if it helps. I still don't understand how I can have oil pressure issues when people are running this pan with 383-396's without any problems.
There is a good chance it is a false reading. What weight oil are you using?
Also make sure to check your oil pump drive gear when you have the manifold off the car...mine did all sorts of funny things when the gear started to go.
05-25-2009, 02:25 PM
#20
10w30 penzoil synthetic. I put in a new driver gear with a reinforcement piece on the top with the h/c swap, but I'll make sure to check it. I also put in a new oil pressure sender at the same time, but since pretty much everything is made in china that could be the problem right there.