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Old 06-30-2009, 05:04 PM
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Question opinions on these rockers???

i just bought these scorpion rollers, 1.7 ration 3/8 stud

wat u think about them??
http://scorpionperformance.com/newsi...category_id=73
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Originally Posted by slownova73
i just bought these scorpion rollers, 1.7 ration 3/8 stud

wat u think about them??
http://scorpionperformance.com/newsi...category_id=73
I've heard people use them without issues. Are you using the stock cam?
You will need better springs, hardened pushrods, and I always recommend using ARP rocker arm studs.
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scorpion is good stuff, some of the local dirt track guys swear by them.
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
I've heard people use them without issues. Are you using the stock cam?
You will need better springs, hardened pushrods, and I always recommend using ARP rocker arm studs.
i have in my possession the comp XFI 292 cam, beehive springs,and the heads are already ARP'd , my pushrods are 7.200, idk if theyre hardned or not, but should i get 7.300's to be on the safe side with that cam??, nothing has called for longer pushrods but idk
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Originally Posted by slownova73
i have in my possession the comp XFI 292 cam, beehive springs,and the heads are already ARP'd , my pushrods are 7.200, idk if theyre hardned or not, but should i get 7.300's to be on the safe side with that cam??, nothing has called for longer pushrods but idk
Being on the safe side is measuring what pushrods you need, not guessing.
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Originally Posted by slownova73
i have in my possession the comp XFI 292 cam, beehive springs,and the heads are already ARP'd , my pushrods are 7.200, idk if theyre hardned or not, but should i get 7.300's to be on the safe side with that cam??, nothing has called for longer pushrods but idk
XFI 292
242/248 .584/.579 113

I would only put that cam in a 383+ cube motor.

With 1.7 rr's the lift would be .661/656...you'd need a crazy spring kit to handle that kind of lift...not to mention the best heads/intake combo you can get to flow efficiently at that amount of lift.

You should take a step back and analyze what your goals are and buy parts accordingly that work together, don't just throw a bunch of parts together and hope it turns out well.
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Being on the safe side is measuring what pushrods you need, not guessing.
where can you get a measuring tool from?
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Originally Posted by ThreeHonks
where can you get a measuring tool from?
You would need an adjustable pushrod and either a solid lifter or a test spring. You should be able to get all of the above from Comp.
You need to use the "sharpie method" to observe the wipe pattern accross the valve stem. Search for determining push rod length and you should find all you need.
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deff going to need some killer springs for that set up those rockers are heavy.
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
XFI 292
242/248 .584/.579 113

I would only put that cam in a 383+ cube motor.

With 1.7 rr's the lift would be .661/656...you'd need a crazy spring kit to handle that kind of lift...not to mention the best heads/intake combo you can get to flow efficiently at that amount of lift.
And folks thought I was nuts when I ran .60x lift on my last cam. My Patriot etremes are good to .650 before bind. Not sure what can go to .66x" lift. Even if there are springs than ca go there, that valvetrain is gonna take a beating assuming they can even resist floating with the LT1 11/32" valves.

I would not even think about it.
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its a forged 383 ci motor, i got a single plane intake for it, stainless valves,guideplates, beehives,all the good head hardware, just no portwork "yet" and about the pushrods, i have a checker i just dont know if i should get "longer" ones or not??

im not playing around with this engine! sum mouthy people need to be taught a lesson around here, plus itll be fun to drive!
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Originally Posted by slownova73
its a forged 383 ci motor, i got a single plane intake for it, stainless valves,guideplates, beehives,all the good head hardware, just no portwork "yet" and about the pushrods, i have a checker i just dont know if i should get "longer" ones or not??

im not playing around with this engine! sum mouthy people need to be taught a lesson around here, plus itll be fun to drive!
Definitely invest a lot of money on your heads. They will be the key to making hp.

With a nice set of 1.6 rr's the lift of that cam would be .628/.618. You might even think about a nice set of 1.52 ratio Comp Pro Mags. But I'd ask whoever is porting your heads about your valvetrain requireemnts.

You need an adj push rod AND either a solid lifter or a test spring to measure for proper push rod length. You need to use the "sharpie method" to observe the wipe pattern on the valve stems. Only then will you know if you need longer or shorter pushrods, not before.
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You live an hour and a half from the best LT1 topend shop there is, why not take advantage of that.

The XFI lobes are HARD to control you will only make them harder to control by going 1.7s.
You are pretty much guaranteed to need longer valves to get enough spring in there to control that hell maybe even just to get retainer to seal clearance.

The single plane IF choosen properly might bring the rpm needs of that cam down. For now though stock heads are going to choke it LOW in the rpm range.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
You live an hour and a half from the best LT1 topend shop there is, why not take advantage of that.

The XFI lobes are HARD to control you will only make them harder to control by going 1.7s.
You are pretty much guaranteed to need longer valves to get enough spring in there to control that hell maybe even just to get retainer to seal clearance.

The single plane IF choosen properly might bring the rpm needs of that cam down. For now though stock heads are going to choke it LOW in the rpm range.
sorry i forgot to mention i have TRICK FLOW 195CC HEADS, and what shop are you talking about??
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
Definitely invest a lot of money on your heads. They will be the key to making hp.

With a nice set of 1.6 rr's the lift of that cam would be .628/.618. You might even think about a nice set of 1.52 ratio Comp Pro Mags. But I'd ask whoever is porting your heads about your valvetrain requireemnts.

You need an adj push rod AND either a solid lifter or a test spring to measure for proper push rod length. You need to use the "sharpie method" to observe the wipe pattern on the valve stems. Only then will you know if you need longer or shorter pushrods, not before.
'currently installed on the car are comp pro magnum 1.52 sa rr's, i got these scorpions at a price i couldnt refuse!
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Originally Posted by slownova73
sorry i forgot to mention i have TRICK FLOW 195CC HEADS, and what shop are you talking about??
Advanced Induction
6841 Belt Road
Concord, NC 28027
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Originally Posted by slownova73
'currently installed on the car are comp pro magnum 1.52 sa rr's, i got these scorpions at a price i couldnt refuse!
Then sell them and make a profit. Running that much lift is insane.
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
Advanced Induction
6841 Belt Road
Concord, NC 28027
ahh ok, ive seen the website but had no idea they where that close, thanks for that info man
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
Then sell them and make a profit. Running that much lift is insane.
thats the idea, but ill prolly end up running the pro mags, and maybe just slap on those scorpions and see what happens lol
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
Definitely invest a lot of money on your heads. They will be the key to making hp.

With a nice set of 1.6 rr's the lift of that cam would be .628/.618. You might even think about a nice set of 1.52 ratio Comp Pro Mags. But I'd ask whoever is porting your heads about your valvetrain requireemnts.

You need an adj push rod AND either a solid lifter or a test spring to measure for proper push rod length. You need to use the "sharpie method" to observe the wipe pattern on the valve stems. Only then will you know if you need longer or shorter pushrods, not before.
The lift at .584/.579 is with 1.6rockers. So it would only be .620/.615 with 1.7rockers. With his 1.52rockers it will be .554/.550.


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