what would cause this :(
08-11-2009, 11:29 PM
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what would cause this :( Very Long Story but very informative.
Well basically my buddy has a 97 Lt1 camaro with a 383 a 236/238 L.E cam and L.E3 heads and intake. 7.150" pushrods, 1.6 promags, comp cams lifters all new stuff. 58mm ASM throttle body not monoblade, 4k stall and stage 4 built trans and a 3.73 12 bolt. This is a brand new balanced engine that has been decked, milled, honed and all the goodies. 42# injectors and yes it was base tuned TRYING to get a actual dynotune, but this is what happened now. While all the other parts are used but were on a perfect working car from before. Like the opti and all other parts just swapped over to this engine and ran it. It runs like a beast and sounds awesome with the help of LPP headers with a LM2 exhaust and cutouts. But we had taken it to the dyno 2x and it falls on its face from the start of 4500 rpms all the way up top. The dyno shop says it could be a opti, bad wires,plugs etc......Well we check the plugs they are all fine and the wires are not arching or crossed, the coil is a msd and the ICM worked before and has a spacer mod could it be culprit (idk). The next day we swapped the opti for a complete gm unit with cap and rotor with loctite BECAUSE when taking off the old unit guess what the rotor fell off due to the screws backing out...hahaha So with the new one now and loctite on the screws for the rotor and figured that this had to be the culprit on why the dyno was a bad day. Well back on the dyno again and guess what the exact same problem as before with the new opti, what can be wrong now? We had double checked the pushrod length and re set the valve lash, the opti cant be bad but you never know, correct? Fuel pressure is well above 45 and all the grounds are good. Can the ICM be bad? Need help this is bullshit its a new setup and the car needs to get out already, way to much money is involved in this and would like to get out this month. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks, TOM
Well basically my buddy has a 97 Lt1 camaro with a 383 a 236/238 L.E cam and L.E3 heads and intake. 7.150" pushrods, 1.6 promags, comp cams lifters all new stuff. 58mm ASM throttle body not monoblade, 4k stall and stage 4 built trans and a 3.73 12 bolt. This is a brand new balanced engine that has been decked, milled, honed and all the goodies. 42# injectors and yes it was base tuned TRYING to get a actual dynotune, but this is what happened now. While all the other parts are used but were on a perfect working car from before. Like the opti and all other parts just swapped over to this engine and ran it. It runs like a beast and sounds awesome with the help of LPP headers with a LM2 exhaust and cutouts. But we had taken it to the dyno 2x and it falls on its face from the start of 4500 rpms all the way up top. The dyno shop says it could be a opti, bad wires,plugs etc......Well we check the plugs they are all fine and the wires are not arching or crossed, the coil is a msd and the ICM worked before and has a spacer mod could it be culprit (idk). The next day we swapped the opti for a complete gm unit with cap and rotor with loctite BECAUSE when taking off the old unit guess what the rotor fell off due to the screws backing out...hahaha So with the new one now and loctite on the screws for the rotor and figured that this had to be the culprit on why the dyno was a bad day. Well back on the dyno again and guess what the exact same problem as before with the new opti, what can be wrong now? We had double checked the pushrod length and re set the valve lash, the opti cant be bad but you never know, correct? Fuel pressure is well above 45 and all the grounds are good. Can the ICM be bad? Need help this is bullshit its a new setup and the car needs to get out already, way to much money is involved in this and would like to get out this month. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks, TOM
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08-12-2009, 02:46 PM
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Same thought here as that is what happened with mine. The thing is though, once it was determined something was up, the dyno operator taped a fuel pressure gauge to the winshield on the next pull to confirm this. Was that done with yours?
08-12-2009, 06:58 PM
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sorry for the late posts but yes it does have a brand new fuel pump which is a 255 in tank pump. The valve springs were also checked for coil bind and they are okay. Fuel pressure was never checked at w.o.t but that is next on the list. The coil was perfect and has less than 5k miles on it and is a msd!
08-13-2009, 09:36 PM
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well we had tested the new pump and it has steady pressure across the board at 45+ which is good, so what else can it be. How would I test the icm or coil, can I even test it?
