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Old 06-13-2010, 12:54 PM
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I just finished tearing down my project LT1 that came out of a B-Body. I hope to build either a 396 or a 409 stroker out it with LE3 heads and cam or AI heads and cam.... my question is where are there some good venders that offer 396 or 409 forged rotating assemblies? My other question is should I splay four-bolt mains on this block or are the two-bolt mains strong enough?
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how much power are you planning? Any boost or nitrous and how much RPM? I would splay them regardless but that's just me
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396--plenty, Golen, Clayton Racing, Ellwein Racing, etc, etc,
409--??????? none that I know of.
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Originally Posted by JB_97ws6TA
how much power are you planning? Any boost or nitrous and how much RPM? I would splay them regardless but that's just me
I am hoping for close to 500 rwhp
small shots of nitrous will be sprayed (150 shot at Max)
Max rpm's 6500-7000 would be fine and as high of a compression ratio as possible while allowing pump gas
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Stick car..... can't wait to twist my first half shaft or rear knuckle.
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im pretty sure you cant make an lt1 into a 409, boring it 60 over is really pushing it and the biggest crank you can clearence is a 3.875 stroke, anymore and you will hit water. So just go with the 396!!
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just build a 383... for what it's worth the quickest and fastest NA lt1s have been 383s... and both have been T/As which obviously has something to do with it
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
just build a 383... for what it's worth the quickest and fastest NA lt1s have been 383s... and both have been T/As which obviously has something to do with it
BS! 409s are proportionally faster than 383s!

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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
BS! 409s are proportionally faster than 383s!

hey you have a 383 and its in a T/A.... but why are you 1.5 seconds behind the others



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Originally Posted by vettezilla
I am hoping for close to 500 rwhp
small shots of nitrous will be sprayed (150 shot at Max)
Max rpm's 6500-7000 would be fine and as high of a compression ratio as possible while allowing pump gas

383 is plenty. I would go 383 if you are plannin to run any power adder. If you are planning on building an all motor beast and planning to spend every dime and nickel to get every lil HP gain then I would build a 396 with a metric **** ton of $ in the heads
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
hey you have a 383 and its in a T/A.... but why are you 1.5 seconds behind the others



Maybe because it's green?
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Originally Posted by ReggieWarrenJr
im pretty sure you cant make an lt1 into a 409, boring it 60 over is really pushing it and the biggest crank you can clearence is a 3.875 stroke, anymore and you will hit water. So just go with the 396!!
This statement couldn't be more false. I know for a fact that at least 3 have been built with everyday GM LT1 blocks, NO filling or half fills, all with 4.00" cranks, and none of them hit water. It all depends on the machinist, how much time they want to take, and how much they pay attention to details. That's what I was told when I asked how it was done without hitting water.

P.S. Something to think about.....if 33 cubic is so much much better than a 350, how much better would 59 cubic inches be? (This will probably open a can of worms! )

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Originally Posted by stryker1320
This statement couldn't be more false. I know for a fact that at least 3 have been built with everyday GM LT1 blocks, NO filling or half fills, all with 4.00" cranks, and none of them hit water. It all depends on the machinist, how much time they want to take, and how much they pay attention to details. That's what I was told when I asked how it was done without hitting water.

P.S. Something to think about.....if 33 cubic is so much much better than a 350, how much better would 59 cubic inches be? (This will probably open a can of worms! )
wow, didnt know its been done, sorry for the false statement.
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409=4 inch stroke with a 30 over bore.
Any good engine builder can do this.
Actually it is a 408.8 CI
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Originally Posted by stryker1320
This statement couldn't be more false. I know for a fact that at least 3 have been built with everyday GM LT1 blocks, NO filling or half fills, all with 4.00" cranks, and none of them hit water. It all depends on the machinist, how much time they want to take, and how much they pay attention to details. That's what I was told when I asked how it was done without hitting water.

P.S. Something to think about.....if 33 cubic is so much much better than a 350, how much better would 59 cubic inches be? (This will probably open a can of worms! )
experience > speculation
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From what I understand 4.030 bore x 4" stroke = 408 ci
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i didnt know that a lt1 could be clearenced for a 4in crank, the biggest i heard of was a 400 ci, i guess the lt1 blocks have a lil bit more meat than i thought, but now that i think of it you can have the crank pins turned down to 1.8" instead of 2'' and not grind as much off the block.


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