I need a little imput here folks...
08-12-2010, 02:39 PM
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I need a little imput here folks... got my 94 z back in december, building ever since.
Refreshed top end with new 305 cam, lifters timing chain n gears, new lifters, behives and retainers. and cai, and shorties and magna flow.
3/23 rear
1/4 mile was 99mph
got tuned from pmc for less
1/4 mile 103
now is $$ time, I decided to go with new yank ss converter
So i spoke with an local tranmission 'legend'
He recommended keeping stock converter, and changing to 3/73 gears.
$500 labor , and parts = $1275. seems a little steep for gears, but i dont know.
My budget allows either the gears or the new yank w old 3/23 gears.
goal is better time.
also have new shocks, torque arm, and all new rarear bushing in atisapation of yank
Refreshed top end with new 305 cam, lifters timing chain n gears, new lifters, behives and retainers. and cai, and shorties and magna flow.
3/23 rear
1/4 mile was 99mph
got tuned from pmc for less
1/4 mile 103
now is $$ time, I decided to go with new yank ss converter
So i spoke with an local tranmission 'legend'
He recommended keeping stock converter, and changing to 3/73 gears.
$500 labor , and parts = $1275. seems a little steep for gears, but i dont know.
My budget allows either the gears or the new yank w old 3/23 gears.
goal is better time.
also have new shocks, torque arm, and all new rarear bushing in atisapation of yank
08-12-2010, 02:44 PM
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Oy vey!
A stock converter will work with the 305 cam, but it isn't ideal. A 3000+ would provide you with a significant advantage.
And since you can't make a complete sentence, are you saying that going from 3.23s to 3.73s cost you $1275? A gear swap (labor and all) shouldn't cost you more than 5 or $600, TOPS.
No reason you can't do both at the same time - just find a different shop.
A stock converter will work with the 305 cam, but it isn't ideal. A 3000+ would provide you with a significant advantage.
And since you can't make a complete sentence, are you saying that going from 3.23s to 3.73s cost you $1275? A gear swap (labor and all) shouldn't cost you more than 5 or $600, TOPS.
No reason you can't do both at the same time - just find a different shop.
08-12-2010, 02:56 PM
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Yeah a good running set up requires the cam, converter, and rear gear to work together. That "legend" sounds like a goof. Rear gear and converter swaps are some of the best bang for the buck mods going. $500-600 is what most shops here get for a gear swap and thats parts and labor. A good converter is usually $600-700 and local shops here get around $200-300 labor to do the install. Keep surfing around here for ideas and find another trans guy...
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08-12-2010, 03:06 PM
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A legend in his own mind!
General concensus for the last 15years would be Lt1s love stall converters 2800 MINIMUM but 3000-3600 is the norm.....
When you add gear you need to be able to raise the RPM to take advantage ofthe gear out the hole. 60' is your race!
1200+ for a gear instal is just absurd! 189.00 for the gearset 160.00 instal kit plus labor for a total of 450-500 is normal....
you can pickup a M6 rear with 3.42s for 150-200.00
General concensus for the last 15years would be Lt1s love stall converters 2800 MINIMUM but 3000-3600 is the norm.....
When you add gear you need to be able to raise the RPM to take advantage ofthe gear out the hole. 60' is your race!
1200+ for a gear instal is just absurd! 189.00 for the gearset 160.00 instal kit plus labor for a total of 450-500 is normal....
you can pickup a M6 rear with 3.42s for 150-200.00
08-12-2010, 05:58 PM
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Thanks for the info,
Ilive in $$ morris county, nothern nj. high dollar repairs.
if anyone can recommend a shop an hour or so away, its gotta be worth my while to give them a call.
thanks again
Ilive in $$ morris county, nothern nj. high dollar repairs.
if anyone can recommend a shop an hour or so away, its gotta be worth my while to give them a call.
thanks again
08-12-2010, 07:20 PM
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DEFINATELY go with the converter. Yank's SS lineup is supposed to be nearly as streetable as the stock converter, and will hardly effect your fuel economy. A 3000+ stall will also make a cammed auto car a lot more street friendly as well. You'll only notice it when you put your foot down. 
Yank's site says for bolt on/suspension/top end cars you want around a 3600 stall w/3.42-3.73 gears.
The local legend should do some research, it's not 1975 anymore...
Yank's site says for bolt on/suspension/top end cars you want around a 3600 stall w/3.42-3.73 gears.
The local legend should do some research, it's not 1975 anymore...
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08-13-2010, 12:35 AM
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A yank 3600+3.73 gears is looked at as a great combo on here, i will be running it. and that is ridiculous. I got my gears/girdle for 200 and labor will be 300. That labor price is a little high. if you have a 3 series carrier go on ebay, there are OEM 3.73s out of S10s for under 100 bucks all the time.
08-13-2010, 01:27 AM
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considering we are talking about Lt1s and to stay on topic,YES!
08-13-2010, 12:05 PM
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DEFINATELY go with the converter. Yank's SS lineup is supposed to be nearly as streetable as the stock converter, and will hardly effect your fuel economy. A 3000+ stall will also make a cammed auto car a lot more street friendly as well. You'll only notice it when you put your foot down.
Yank's site says for bolt on/suspension/top end cars you want around a 3600 stall w/3.42-3.73 gears.
The local legend should do some research, it's not 1975 anymore...
Yank's site says for bolt on/suspension/top end cars you want around a 3600 stall w/3.42-3.73 gears.
The local legend should do some research, it's not 1975 anymore...
08-13-2010, 01:15 PM
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