Pacsetter Longtubes "Race" Version... Do I need a tune?
11-02-2010, 12:00 AM
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Pacsetter Longtubes "Race" Version... Do I need a tune? I am thinking of buying a set of Pacesetter Longtubes "Race Version" with no AIR or EGR fittings... Will i need a tune after install since I am deleting the AIR and EGR???
11-02-2010, 12:29 AM
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I am running the coated pacesetter race long tubes i havent got a tune yet runs fine. Only thing i did was replace my LT1 KM with a LT4 KM. If the dash light bothers you then you can get the EGR deleted.
I saved my LT1 KM for later date when it might come in handy.
I saved my LT1 KM for later date when it might come in handy.
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11-02-2010, 01:38 AM
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Yeah easier to install race LT's over the emission because of the clearance issues. An yes i replaced them myself, i was able to use a lift at the time and took me 2 hours. I'm sure if you were doing it in a drive way would probly take longer.
There's lot of things needs to be taken off to get it done. Remove starter, oil dipstick tube, steering linkage, unbolt motor mount, remove exhaust manifolds, spark plug, wires, and coolant temp gauge sensor on the side of the head. Raise the engine up just enough to clear the long tubes, i installed both from under.
Be sure to order all the stuff before starting this job makes the job go quicker instead of running back and forth ordering parts such as O2 extensions, camps, header bolts, new gaskets ect...
There's lot of things needs to be taken off to get it done. Remove starter, oil dipstick tube, steering linkage, unbolt motor mount, remove exhaust manifolds, spark plug, wires, and coolant temp gauge sensor on the side of the head. Raise the engine up just enough to clear the long tubes, i installed both from under.
Be sure to order all the stuff before starting this job makes the job go quicker instead of running back and forth ordering parts such as O2 extensions, camps, header bolts, new gaskets ect...
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11-02-2010, 01:47 AM
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Yeah easier to install race LT's over the emission because of the clearance issues. An yes i replaced them myself, i was able to use a lift at the time and took me 2 hours. I'm sure if you were doing it in a drive way would probly take longer.
There's lot of things needs to be taken off to get it done. Remove starter, oil dipstick tube, steering linkage, unbolt motor mount, remove exhaust manifolds, spark plug, wires, and coolant temp gauge sensor on the side of the head. Raise the engine up just enough to clear the long tubes, i installed both from under.
Be sure to order all the stuff before starting this job makes the job go quicker instead of running back and forth ordering parts such as O2 extensions, camps, header bolts, new gaskets ect...
There's lot of things needs to be taken off to get it done. Remove starter, oil dipstick tube, steering linkage, unbolt motor mount, remove exhaust manifolds, spark plug, wires, and coolant temp gauge sensor on the side of the head. Raise the engine up just enough to clear the long tubes, i installed both from under.
Be sure to order all the stuff before starting this job makes the job go quicker instead of running back and forth ordering parts such as O2 extensions, camps, header bolts, new gaskets ect...
11-02-2010, 02:57 AM
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Maybe someone can chime in and let you know about the price.
I wouldn't know because i do all the work myself. If you want to know my opinion i say do it yourself, i wouldn't ever recommend someone to pay money to have it installed. Maybe get couple friends and do it over the weekend and by them some beer.
I wouldn't know because i do all the work myself. If you want to know my opinion i say do it yourself, i wouldn't ever recommend someone to pay money to have it installed. Maybe get couple friends and do it over the weekend and by them some beer.
11-02-2010, 03:12 AM
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Maybe someone can chime in and let you know about the price.
I wouldn't know because i do all the work myself. If you want to know my opinion i say do it yourself, i wouldn't ever recommend someone to pay money to have it installed. Maybe get couple friends and do it over the weekend and by them some beer.
I wouldn't know because i do all the work myself. If you want to know my opinion i say do it yourself, i wouldn't ever recommend someone to pay money to have it installed. Maybe get couple friends and do it over the weekend and by them some beer.
Question: on a stock motor, prob gonna be a bolt on car with a small tune... will Lt's make that big of a difference than Shorties??? On a Built motor of course, but what bout stock?
11-02-2010, 07:32 AM
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long tubes will absolutly make more power and torque than shorties........shorties are virtually useless........long tubes will make a good difference on your car......and I would reccomend a tune afterwords....i've see these cars sometimes stay right around the 12's AFR and I've seen them sometimes dip down into the 10's at WOT.....
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To do a header swap your looking at 3-4 hours with quite a few busted up knuckles! I would do it myself if i were you, as you can't buy experience.
And definitely go with a set of longtubes! For the amount of work involved in doing any header swap you will regret it if you went with the shorties. Also the long tubes will give you a better platform to grow on with future mods.
And definitely go with a set of longtubes! For the amount of work involved in doing any header swap you will regret it if you went with the shorties. Also the long tubes will give you a better platform to grow on with future mods.
11-03-2010, 04:14 AM
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Took me a lot longer than 3-4 hours! Of course I tend to do my car projects in my garage during the winter which makes them go a little slower.
I would plan the whole weekend if I were you. A key point is to get the front end lifted REALLY high to get those headers in from below since you need to angle them up so far. Make sure to check your header bolt torque frequently for the first ~two weeks after the install.
No need for a tune although it will get you a little more power. And yes, LTs are totally worth it! They make a very noticeable difference.
If you decide to pay to have it done, $480 sounds about right. I would do it yourself though. Car projects can get frustrating, but there is nothing better than knowing your car inside and out, and knowing that a job was done right. Both of these only come from you being the one turning the wrenches.
I would plan the whole weekend if I were you. A key point is to get the front end lifted REALLY high to get those headers in from below since you need to angle them up so far. Make sure to check your header bolt torque frequently for the first ~two weeks after the install.
No need for a tune although it will get you a little more power. And yes, LTs are totally worth it! They make a very noticeable difference.
If you decide to pay to have it done, $480 sounds about right. I would do it yourself though. Car projects can get frustrating, but there is nothing better than knowing your car inside and out, and knowing that a job was done right. Both of these only come from you being the one turning the wrenches.
