96reddevil

So I was driving my Trans Am to a car show today, and noticed it was hard to shift into first and reverse. Well when we we're all leaving, we all ripped ***** out of there. Well I was shifting and missed third, because the same thing started happening with it. I tried it again, and I missed third again. I started driving just normal. Not getting on it, and I have to slam it, and use some decent force to get it to go into 1st, 3rd, 5th and reverse. Was wondering if anyone had an idea on this. Hopefully it isn't something major..

APG12

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Aftermarket shifter? If so, and if it has adjustable stops, sometimes the nuts back off interfering with the shifts. This would make sense if it was the top stop since it's all the top gears.

96reddevil

Nope. Its the factory shifter for all I know. Think this could happen with the factory shifter?

APG12

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I dont think the factory shifter has adjustable stops, so it may be a transmission problem.

z_speedfreak

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I'd post this in the man. trans section. possible culprits, air in the hydro & needs to be bled, excess play in the shifter(worn out), worn out throw out bearing or clutch, or worn out synchros.
and I would check them in that order

the_merv

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I'm bettin the Shifter Cup is fucked up, the stock plastic ones are junk. I have the Bronze one in my car.

Remove the Shifter and you'll see what I'm talking about..it's here in my pic..

1slo_camaro

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/\ /\ x2 mine did the same thing. but said ummm **** you and snapped when i was running a 2k race and it ripped out on second gear needless to say that was the most expensive break ive ever had. but made my money back 3 days later when i pulled him on a new bronze internals to replace all the plastic ****!!!


or check the bolts holding your shifter onto the .... shifter lol. you should have 2 1/2 or 9/16 bolt heads holding the actual shifter on if they backed out and allowed play you might not be able to fully engage the shifter thus causing this problem. but you would notice a lot of play in your shifter.

SS RRR

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See if your clutch is dragging. Jack up the back wheels, start the engine, put it into gear, depress the clutch and see if the wheels still turn.

96reddevil

I'll check some of these things out. Thanks guys, but as of this morning she's out of commission. Got it into reverse after fighting to slam it in, and it popped right out after like two feet, then fought to get it back into first. Its way worse than it was the other day.

SS RRR

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If it's popping out of gear the syncros could be bad as well. Still check to see if the clutch is dragging.

FormulaJoe

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+1 on the clutch dragging

96reddevil

Would the dragging clutch just effect 1st, 3rd, 5th, and reverse, and not 2nd, 4th, and 6th, because they work fine.

z_speedfreak

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sounds like synchros, I bought my car with a bad reverse synchro and the previous owner told me it was just a burr in the gear and to hold it in gear. so by the time I figured it out and sent my trans off to get rebuilt I needed a new reverse gear on top of the synchro. send it off to tick and get it rebuilt and beefed up like I did and you should never have to worry about it again

the_merv

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I'm still bettin Shifter Cup..easy part to check..

SS RRR

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No but a dragging clutch will take out syncros with the quickness so 4th could be next.

1961ba427

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hmm....wonder if that's why my shifter feels sloppy all of a sudden. It's a Pro 5.0...was in the car when I got it. This is my first stick shift that wasn't an old school 4 speed or 3 on the tree. LOL

the_merv

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You guys are clowns.

Check the Cup.


Close thread.

93Z2871805

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^^What he said

1 3 5 R
--O--
2 4 6

The cup is interfering with the top row of gears.

z_speedfreak

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ok now that sounds like a cup problem. when mine was getting rebuilt both the stock hurst shifter and the cup were junk, which def lead to the reverse gear & synchro and 2nd gear synchro being junk as well. so hopefully you caught it before you need work like ^that done, course its possible its now a combination of problems. first I'd check to see if the clutch is dragging then I would drop the trans, check/upgrade the cup and swap the clutch out if it is dragging, then bolt it back up and then you can find out if the trans needs rebuilding or not.

its possible it could just be the cup, but how do you explain how it ONLY pops out of reverse, I wouldn't be surprised if the rev synchro is shot as well.

the_merv

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A Synchro Ring doesnt cause it to pop-out..worn out Keys & D-ring will cause it to pop-out. A Synchro Ring just matches the free-spinning Gear with the speed of the Input shaft/Counter Shaft at the time, hence the name, and the grinding when it's fucked up, or the Keys & D-ring are worn.

If the Cup is fucked off to the point where it will partially engage Reverse then that is his issue on why it will pop-out..the D-ring & Keys aren't fully locking out to hold the Slider on the Gear. Also there is Metal D-ring & Key Retaining Plate on the back side of the Reverse Slider Assembly, my stock T56 was cracked and that caused Reverse to pop out every now n then cause it wasnt letting the Keys hold the Slider in place.