Header Question
12-11-2011, 01:08 AM
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Header Question So i've been doing some research and have decided to go with a set of a LT headers x pipe and sweet thunders and have a few questions.
1. Im going with the emissions style headers how much more of a PITA does this make the process if any and are any extra parts required (I read somewhere about needing to find a rubber elbow from a hardware store to attach the AIR to the LTs)
2. Which brand are the easiest to install? Like not requiring jacking the motor
3. Is rerouting the plug wires OTVC neccessary or is there any alternative like putting header wrap on the headers and then boots on the plug wires for instance?
Sorry I know these are probably silly questions but decided I want to start getting to know my car a little better. All i've done so far in the car world really is install CAI, Oil changes and some car audio im a total noooob
1. Im going with the emissions style headers how much more of a PITA does this make the process if any and are any extra parts required (I read somewhere about needing to find a rubber elbow from a hardware store to attach the AIR to the LTs)
2. Which brand are the easiest to install? Like not requiring jacking the motor
3. Is rerouting the plug wires OTVC neccessary or is there any alternative like putting header wrap on the headers and then boots on the plug wires for instance?
Sorry I know these are probably silly questions but decided I want to start getting to know my car a little better. All i've done so far in the car world really is install CAI, Oil changes and some car audio im a total noooob
12-11-2011, 02:47 AM
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I assume your needing to pass emissions in California. In which case chances are you will fail just by moving the cat or cats from their original location. If you know somebody to help you pass then I would say the hardest part about installing emissions headers compared to off road headers would be the EGR tube on the rear passenger side. I have pacesetters and they just slipped right in after I removed the steering shaft. I also run the plug wires in the stock location tho I do have a sock on one of them and have had no problems.
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12-11-2011, 02:58 AM
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I assume your needing to pass emissions in California. In which case chances are you will fail just by moving the cat or cats from their original location. If you know somebody to help you pass then I would say the hardest part about installing emissions headers compared to off road headers would be the EGR tube on the rear passenger side. I have pacesetters and they just slipped right in after I removed the steering shaft. I also run the plug wires in the stock location tho I do have a sock on one of them and have had no problems.
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12-11-2011, 03:02 AM
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a lot of people go ahead and do motor mounts when doing headers even when not really needed. In theory it helps align the headers a bit and some say its easier to instal. Also its easier once youre already there. I definately would change em.
12-11-2011, 03:21 AM
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I'd do the mounts. My long tubes sit low and would rattle against the K member before I padded them with some header wrap.
There's no need for OTVC wires, just use some ties to keep the wires away from your headers.
I was going to keep my car emissions legal but...
1. There's no room for dual cats on my 96
2. I plan on doing heads + cam soon
3. Reconnecting the emissions controls was DREADFUL and left my exhaust full of leaks
The end of the EGR pipe wouldn't fit into the port on my emissions Pacesetters (crap welds + design). The EGR pipe was barely long enough to connect my headers to the intake manifold and took a bit of stretching + bending... this resulted in 2 gaping holes in the pipe that I discovered a month later. Also, the AIR fittings wouldn't screw on completely so the inner flange would not compress and seal.
There's no need for OTVC wires, just use some ties to keep the wires away from your headers.
I was going to keep my car emissions legal but...
1. There's no room for dual cats on my 96
2. I plan on doing heads + cam soon
3. Reconnecting the emissions controls was DREADFUL and left my exhaust full of leaks
The end of the EGR pipe wouldn't fit into the port on my emissions Pacesetters (crap welds + design). The EGR pipe was barely long enough to connect my headers to the intake manifold and took a bit of stretching + bending... this resulted in 2 gaping holes in the pipe that I discovered a month later. Also, the AIR fittings wouldn't screw on completely so the inner flange would not compress and seal.
12-11-2011, 03:35 AM
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I did poly motor mounts while I was there and glad I did since my factory ones were completely wore out. It was hard for me to get the EGR tube off mine since it was so hard to get a wrench on the bolt and then when I did it just rounded the heads of the bolts off so I just cut the pipe since I was deleting it anyway. I did not have to jack the motor up once I got the steering shaft out of the way and got the car up in the air enough (6 ton jackstands).
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Ok this info is great guys I think I have an idea of whats going on. Im still gonna go with the emissions but in terms of the motor mounts are Prothane Good Or solid Better? How does drivabilt differ im guessing u feel the motor a lot more with both compared to stock is it annoying?
