trilkb

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Ive found a 1993 camaro that is speed density obviously. Heres what ive noticed...

Heres the major list
1 - Odometer Might not work, not 100% sure, has 104,800 miles.
2- trip odometer doesnt work
3- Speedometer sits at 90-95mph in drive, jumps to 140 when driving
4- Car never downshifted at all even with the pedal to the floor
5- Brake light blinks when driving, seems bump related?
6- As it sits, car backfires quite alot

All the stuff listed above are major concearns, can anyone tell me what im looking at to fix this stuff?

This is minor things

4- Needs headliner - 200$ on ebay
5- front fender gash - 75$ + paint
6- Window controls dont seem to work that well
7- small scratches on rear quarters of the car.
8- broken fog light

Heres the good/not stock
1- Car is Purple pearl metallic and doesnt appear to have any damage other then the fender
2- Hardtop car with black roof and good paint
3- Has subframe connectors already installed
4- Has bbk Throttle body
5- Has some sort of mid lenght headers, possibly slp's
6- Has some sort of Vac canister behind drivers headlight? is this stock? runs up to a vac port on intake, had summit racing gauge on it
7- intake has been off, painted black
8- MSD 6A ignition
9- Might have a small cam? car seems like a dog, has a mild lopey idle
10- stock stall converter, at a light it acts like cam surge and the car doesnt want to sit still, could just be a vac leak.
11- RPO says GU5 3.23 rear end
12- Center console has working arm rest and interior is in good condition

Id be using this car for a shell to swap my 1994 trans am drivetrain into so the engine problems are not a huge deal. It seems to run well, it does back fire but its not engine related, probably ignition related.

Price right now is 2000$
Anyone wanna let me know what they think? Input on the Major problems would be good.

VinR1

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I paid $1800 for my 93 PPM TA (pic in your other thread) a year ago with 94k mi. Very similar condition and the surging turned out to be a cracked vacuum line

MasterTomos

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All of those dash related problems makes it seem like someone has replaced or tampered with the gauge cluster. That along with the brakes is definitely an electrical issue, that would turn me off.

If you're looking for a car to turn into a racecar, yeah, sure. If you're looking for a reliabe street cruiser or a DD, id keep looking.

trilkb

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Forgot to mention it has the heater core bypassed too. and i highly doubt the AC works too.

Im very worried about the speedometer and odometer/trip. The brake light is the light on the dash, If i pulled up the ebrake it stayed lit, so maybe its an adjustment issue.

The dealer wasnt happy when i left, but i was. I said numerous times i just dont know what im getting into here and i need to do some research.

Even if i look at it as a shell right now, its got the issues of no headliner (none, just see the roof), The speedometer, The trip counter, the odometer. I might go look at it again tomorrow and if the odometer truely doesnt work then I will low ball the hell out of them and if no dice then ill pass.

plus i need a place to put the thing!

It would replace my trans am as a street strip car. not a daily driver.

guppymech

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You said you were happy when you left, trust your gut feeling and pass on that thing. heater core prolly leaks, guages don't work or were swapped out..meaning unknown mileage ect.

blakez28

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Wouldn't pay more than $500 for this roller.

Catmaigne

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It's a good looking car with a number of drivetrain problems. I'd talk him down to $1,000.

355z28

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fwiw all 93 cars were hard top cars. It seems like it has some electrical problems. Being a 93 it just sounds like the transmission isnt setup right with its down shifting problems. Its a 700r4 tranny instead of a 4L60E transmission.

being you have your car to swap drivetrain and wiring harnesses from its not the big of a deal theres about an hour in switching some wiring around.

If you can pick the car up around 1000-1300 I would say risk it otherwise I would keep lookin.

93 LT1 Vette

It's a great looking car. If your looking for just a rolling chassis and the mechanical issues are not a big problem Id swap the drive train from your T/A over. Offer him 1000.00 and haggle from there. Pull the parts from the Camaro and sell them on ebay. you should be able to get at least a grand for the motor, tranny, msd, headers and the other stuff you won't use or need.

If you plan on running it as is, pass. Parts and troubleshooting will cost a fortune. Especially if the tranny needs a rebuild and the opti is crapped out.

trilkb

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I called them back and verified that the odometer did not work. They have had the car on their lot for "months" and the odometer reading hasn't changed. I even test drove it a couple miles.

I said, well i dont want to waste any more time, Will you let it go for 1000-1500$. They told me to hold and transfered me to another salesman. he asked if i had a lower offer then 2000$, i said yea im thinking 1000-1500 since the odometer doesnt work. I also told him many of the issues it had when i looked at it befor i drove it. They kept saying "that car has tons of money into the engine" i said "yea well someone spent the money who didnt know what they were doing. plus when it backfired at idle that says alot lol...and it was a complete gutluss turd. my ES300 was faster.

Anyways, He said and i quote "ill take it to the crusher befor i let it go for under 2000".

I said "well thats fine, thats where that car belongs, BYE!"

Honestly the car doesnt belong at a crusher, but christ...when will dealerships and salesmen get their heads out of there asses. You have a 20 year old car, that doesnt run good, its got major electrical and gauge issues, Engine issues, bald tires, minor body damage, some interior issues..WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR SITTING ON GOLD!?!? lol

05HD

Post the # for the dealer so we can all **** with them until they either end themselves or they sell it to you for 1k.

SRZ

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LOL Where do you guys get your information from?! All 93 were hard tops...yeah ok.

As for being worth it...only if you don't mind doing alot of the work yourself and it's bought for 1500 bucks.

trilkb

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At this point i dont even want it for 1000$, ive already moved on. People who do that crap dont deserve my business. They told me they had 2200$ into the car...they got owned! hahahhaa


Dealership is Major Performance in Hamilton,Oh

Heres a link
http://www.autotrader.com/dealer/inf...erformance.jsp

Im not posting a phone number due to harassment

93 LT1 Vette

Yeah fuckum, they probably gave some poor sap 800 bones for it on a trade in because it ran like **** and it needed body work. Get a buddy to go test drive it, at the first corner have him pop it in neutral and grenade the motor. Then offer um 750.00 minus tow cost to your house.

trilkb

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I dont think you could rev it high enough to blow it up. I held it to the floor in park and it took what seemed like a life time to hit 4000rpm. it did it smoothly but it took foreever

I just dont see that car being anything but a roller. Whoever did the work to it did it wrong. And noone is gonna spend over 1000$ on a stock roller. Noone is gonna spend 2k on a car with a broken odometer and runs like **** either....

Place needs to get a grip on reality.

StraightTimeStirrups

When shopping for a car or anything for that matter, Let the item buy you instead of you buying it!

Joe

96lt1m6

iTrader: (31)

There are way too many Lt1 cars out there to waste time and money on this one!

MattSLONOMO

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I agree..also consider a v-6 car
I did a v-6 to v-8 conversion on a '95..(was real easy to do)one that had a bad motor..$400 was what I paid..good body and interior..
I also get a break on ins because of no "P" in the vin...LOL

SS RRR

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Not positive, but didn't the 93's use a speedo gear in the trans instead of sensor/reluctor?

82cetuner

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93 cars were cable drivin speedos, they were only a upgraded 700R4 and they named it a 4l60 a year later the 4l60E came out that was electronicly controled.

oh as far as 93s not being T-TOP? HAHAHAHA guess the one that my aunt purchased brand new in 93 and came from the dealership was a dealership option with T-TOPS. 93s came with t tops for sure, but they were a basterd year, lots of issues cause of the new body style, bad interior fitment and reliabilty issues (power window panels popping off, Glove compartment not closing, and a TV cable controlled transmission.