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Old 08-12-2012, 03:58 PM
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Just wanted to get a feel what kit people have had good luck with. Ive seen a lot of people using flaming river. What is the best kit for a reasonable price?

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Originally Posted by Dave357LT1
Just wanted to get a feel what kit people have had good luck with. Ive seen a lot of people using flaming river. What is the best kit for a reasonable price?
None of them are what I would call "reasonable" price. They all screw you on the tiny parts. The rack is $250ish which doesn't seem too bad, then they all want $175-$200 for a bumpsteer kit (tie-rods and spacers) and then another $150ish for the column u-joint. Most of the kits are $600ish total. You shed about 5lbs total, but it is easier to steer with a dedicated manual rack over a power rack with the lines looped. Some charge extra for a brace that connects the manual rack to your stock k-member.
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What brand did you go with? I'm doing it more because I'm deleting the power steering.
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Stock rack with the lines looped.
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Manual rack I used.

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https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...nual-rack.html
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Originally Posted by joelster
None of them are what I would call "reasonable" price. They all screw you on the tiny parts. The rack is $250ish which doesn't seem too bad, then they all want $175-$200 for a bumpsteer kit (tie-rods and spacers) and then another $150ish for the column u-joint. Most of the kits are $600ish total. You shed about 5lbs total, but it is easier to steer with a dedicated manual rack over a power rack with the lines looped. Some charge extra for a brace that connects the manual rack to your stock k-member.
Only 5 lbs? I'm guessing that doesn't include the pump, hoses, and accessory bracket that you no longer need.

Must suck when you're driving on tires wider than skinnies on the street.
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Only 5 lbs? I'm guessing that doesn't include the pump, hoses, and accessory bracket that you no longer need.

Must suck when you're driving on tires wider than skinnies on the street.
I'm comparing the weight difference between an aftermarket manual rack, and a stock rack with the lines looped. Neither setup will have the power steering pump and brackets. I'm not about to pay another $600 to shed 5lbs.
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Im gonna either pay to have mine converted or do it myself after doing some reading. I need to bite the bullet and buy a welder. Now I'm gonna be the "guy with a truck, a trailer and a welder" fml
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By far this is the best most economical way I have found
http://shop.rackdoctor.net/1993-1997...4-custom-C.htm
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Originally Posted by joelster
I'm comparing the weight difference between an aftermarket manual rack, and a stock rack with the lines looped. Neither setup will have the power steering pump and brackets. I'm not about to pay another $600 to shed 5lbs.
That's what I figured and I agree.

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By far this is the best most economical way I have found
http://shop.rackdoctor.net/1993-1997...4-custom-C.htm
Wow! That's pretty reasonable. Do you use this with street tires by chance?
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Wow! That's pretty reasonable. Do you use this with street tires by chance?[/QUOTE]

I would email or call them to see but i dont think either would be an issue.
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Just got my converted manual rack from rack doctor today. They said it would take up to four weeks and got it only in one week. I'll give another update when the car gets rolling
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Originally Posted by Dave357LT1
Just got my converted manual rack from rack doctor today. They said it would take up to four weeks and got it only in one week. I'll give another update when the car gets rolling
Awesome. Looking forward to it. What size tires are you using?
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165/80/r15 vw tires
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madman, had it for 6 years and never looked back. Been on 4 different cars with it and indestructible on the street and track.
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I was going to suggest Madman as well.

Besides the 5lbs lose, what about the HP that you free up?
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I HOPE they change the Steering ratio on the "Depower" rack of it won't be any better then one with the lines looped for driving.

I built my own and it still was not cheap. here is what I remember.

Rack off e-bay new $135 delivered
5/8th hiem joints $35 x2
Custom Tie Rod Sleeves $85
Pinto spline adapter $21
dirt track steering universal joint $32
18in of Double "D" rod $12
Aluminum Rack mount clamp $45
$400 spent for what I wanted to do plus custom K-member rebuild. This is what I got...

Stock joint into Double "D" rod


Double "D" rod to New Joint to Pinto spline adapter


Where "I" set my pan clearance


Tie rod sleeves to 5/8th Hiems


Modified K-member


Installed and ready



I want to say this setup was 8lbs over the stock equivalant
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Getting rid of the parts that cause internal friction didn't help? It's stock ratio.
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Originally Posted by Dave357LT1
Getting rid of the parts that cause internal friction didn't help? It's stock ratio.
thing of it this way. A stock rack would be like having a set of 2.72 rear end gears in you car. The engine has to grunt harder to get going. add 3.73s and the engine does not have to grunt as hard and you get going easier.

Now imagine you are the engine. with a stock rack you have to grunt harder to turn it then you would a true Manual rack

My stock rack was 2.75 turns lock to lock my new manual rack is 5


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