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Old 11-04-2012, 07:29 PM
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my car is a 96 firebird with a lt1 swap new opti, and coil. it backfires then just cranks. its seeing 40 psi fuel pressure. the spark is there just really weak. i tried 3 different used icms with the same result. it has the vats bypass module aswell. firing order has been triple checked. Its my first big project ive done so i am at this point totally lost. any ideas?
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bump!!!! please help
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It sounds like you didnt line up the opti correctly maybe. Or you bought a bad egg.

Take off the opti and double check, you shouldnt have to force it in, it should slide on and have no space between the opti and timing cover. And check cam sprocket on the opti(whatever the technical term for that is), and look for any signs of the cam dowel sliding in the wrong spot.
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When I installed it we used a sharpie to mark the gear and the weld on the dowel. Slid on no problem lining them up. But I can't really rule anything out at this point. Any other suggestions I could try first?
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Check and recheck the routing of your plug wires. If they are good then maybe you didn't seat the opti correctly.
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if the opti is flush with the cover does that rule out improper installation?
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Yes it should, and it should have seated flush very easily. If that's the case then I would check plug wire routing and valve adjustment.
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A compression check wouoldnt hurt
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it slid on with very little effort. valves are 1/2 turn past lash. its spark is very weak. i will test from opti to coil tonight
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If it's backfiring more than likely it is a timing issue.
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How about a bad crank sensor? Or bad fuel pump? What's the psi at the rail? Try spraying half a can of starter fluid in the TB. Even with a weak spark, it should ignite the alternate fuel source. If the engine starts and then dies, (you know the crank sensor isn't an issue), it's then fuel or spark related.
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Psi at the rail is 40. Isn't the crank sensor only on obd2 cars? Or am I thinking of something else
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Check and recheck the routing of your plug wires.

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CPS on 96-97 LT1s is just used for misfire detection.

It definatly sounds ignition related not fuel. Dont over look the basics bc im sure youve checked the wires a hundred times. Check and double check all grounds, ICM conn.,Coil and OPTI connectors. When I was testing my opti, It wouldnt spark or the injectors wouldnt pulse. But the one time i got them simultaniously it backfired something nasty out of my intake. Now I have a new opti coming in the mail.

It can be a number of things,get out your multi-meter and start testing
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thanks for the help everyone i will be back with what i discover
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so found out i didnt have the ground strap from the coil to the frame rail, fixed that then discovered i forgot to ground the battery to the block. still same results will scan it monday for codes.
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Originally Posted by esoteric18
..... Will scan it monday for codes.
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Originally Posted by esoteric18
so found out i didnt have the ground strap from the coil to the frame rail, fixed that then discovered i forgot to ground the battery to the block. still same results will scan it monday for codes.
yea... not having the motor properly grounded pretty much results in no spark... as well as a host of other head scratching issues.
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Does anyone think that the motor not being grounded well to the point, the grounds he did have would actually heat up and smoke, could have cause damage to the computer?
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Id bet the PCM is fine.

Are you sure your plug wires are good? May want to pick up some cheap wires, they should be fine for you.


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