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Old 05-08-2013, 12:38 PM
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Is my car a dog cause everyone I talked to at the track said it was.. It's a 93 z28 with a k&n cai bbk 58mm tb with tb bypas stock heads milled 1.6 rocker a lt4 hot cam 160 Thermostat mid length stainless headers borla cat back with cut cat electric cut out a 2800 stall and a shift kit and dyno tune,.. The tires that I was using was not very sticky there all season tires so I was launching off idle with the cut out open and when i got there my trans was super hot so it was slipping into 2nd with a 1.9 60 foot and ran a 13.1 at 103 Is that right..??

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i'm no expert but i know people have gotten close to those times with bolt ons, i would say with a good tire you should be runing 12.5ish? like i said im no expert, also i'm sure a lot of people are going to tell you that the 58mm throttle body is hurting you especially with stock heads.
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Originally Posted by 96z28_lt1
i'm no expert but i know people have gotten close to those times with bolt ons, i would say with a good tire you should be runing 12.5ish? like i said im no expert, also i'm sure a lot of people are going to tell you that the 58mm throttle body is hurting you especially with stock heads.
It doesn't feel that fast to me to be a 12.5 car even with tires.. And that's the way I bought it with all of those parts on there I just dyno tuned it
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What numbers did it make?

Launching off idle and a slipping trans are not helping at all
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Originally Posted by 94 White T/A
What numbers did it make?

Launching off idle and a slipping trans are not helping at all
I know but if I would even launch it like 1500 Rpm it would roast the tires like really bad with a 2.1 2.2 60 foots the dyno numbers was 302 rwhp and 310 rtq I didn't have a cut out or tb bypass at the time so idk what the numbers are with that stuff added
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Originally Posted by ManMuchwano93z28
I know but if I would even launch it like 1500 Rpm it would roast the tires like really bad with a 2.1 2.2 60 foots the dyno numbers was 302 rwhp and 310 rtq I didn't have a cut out or tb bypass at the time so idk what the numbers are with that stuff added
Get some 15in wheels and mount some drag radials on them. Then again, how far do you want to go, which really means are you ready to start breaking stuff..heh.
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Doesn't sound bad to me then with a slipping trans. Do you know what the DA was?

In my mind you are putting down about what a stock ls1 makes, and running about what they run. you should have 12's with a tire and no slip
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Originally Posted by 94 White T/A
Doesn't sound bad to me then with a slipping trans. Do you know what the DA was?

In my mind you are putting down about what a stock ls1 makes, and running about what they run. you should have 12's with a tire and no slip
Actually my cousins have a few stock ls1's and I was beating them they ran a best run of 13.5 and they had a air kid exhaust and a tune
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Originally Posted by Stroked96Bowtie
Get some 15in wheels and mount some drag radials on them. Then again, how far do you want to go, which really means are you ready to start breaking stuff..heh.
I was thinking about getting some nitto's do u think I will brake anything with them if I mount them on my 16's.. ??
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Originally Posted by ManMuchwano93z28
Actually my cousins have a few stock ls1's and I was beating them they ran a best run of 13.5 and they had a air kid exhaust and a tune
That's right about where you should be, I wouldn't call it a dog
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With a cam and stall you only trapped 2 mph higher than my car, and I thought mine ran rather bad with just bolt ons at 13.6 @ 101. With better tires and a non slipping trans 12's should be easy.
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what was the da that night? where were u racing? here in new England yes that is a dog lol......up in Denver no its not lol
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Like was said the slipping trans can't be helping your mph. I think you need to fix that before you'll truly know if you have a dog or not.
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Mine was at 1800 or so, his no clue lol.
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Get a trans, bigger stall and a sticky tire.
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I'd say that's right on par according to your Dyno numbers. The HP numbers are a little lower than i've seen with a hotcam though.

For example, my bolton '93 did a 13.4@104 with 3:73's, LT's, and exhaust and dyno'd 294/323. Mines a 6-speed though.

That car has a lot more in it, You should easily run a 12.5-7 with good tires, a better stall, and a good trans.
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Originally Posted by quik95lt1
what was the da that night? where were u racing? here in new England yes that is a dog lol......up in Denver no its not lol
I live in Illinois so I went to a track in union grove Wisconsin. And It was night time it was about 65 degrees during the day on a hot lap I got a 13.3
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The Grove is a nice track and at that temp I'm sure something is off. Like stated above have the trans checked and while it's out have the converter reflashed and get a good tire on back.
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With the transmission slipping the times you ran almost mean nothing. With a good transmission you should be quicker, bolt on cars run that and a bit quicker. So get your transmission repaired and see what she will really do for you.....
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Originally Posted by 96lt1m6
With the transmission slipping the times you ran almost mean nothing. With a good transmission you should be quicker, bolt on cars run that and a bit quicker. So get your transmission repaired and see what she will really do for you.....
So with a non slipping trans and some sticky nittos what should my car run..?? And not gonna change the stall cause its a daily driver and I heard its terriable to drive everyday with a 3600 stall


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