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Link Bar lifters? Or keep the stock style?

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Hey guys, I'm trying to piece together the components for my 355 build and was wondering if there is any reason to go with link bar lifters instead the stock spider tray setup? This car sees track time quite often during the summer as well as weekly cruising. I would like to do this once and not worry about because I've seen what can happen when a spider tray fails.
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Stock crank, Scat 6" rods, Mahle powerpak pistons, AI 200cc heads and 228/234 Cam, stock intake and TB.
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The stock setup will be more than adequate for that setup.
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The stock setup will be more than adequate for that setup.
Kinda figured, I know the Morel link-bars are pretty spendy anyway.
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Link bars fail too but I run them because I don't listen to the internet.
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I've run both, still running a spider right now.
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Originally Posted by fex77k
I've run both, still running a spider right now.
I assume there's no noticable benefit between them except for real high RPM/HP builds.
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Originally Posted by 93M6Formula
I assume there's no noticable benefit between them except for real high RPM/HP builds.
The price, if you needed that last bit you would ditch the spider.
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I had a sheet metal "spider" fail once. The bar came off the top of that pair, one lifter rotated 90 degrees, and wiped out the cam lobe. Which also put metal in my bearings, etc, etc. You don't have to buy Morel lifters. No more spring that you will be running, any link style lifters will be fine.
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If the spider fails I would suspect that is a symptom of valve control issues not as the root of the problem.

I would just say don't overthink it.

People get too caught up in this kind of stuff and then drop the ball on big details.

If the coin is there and it makes you feel better buy something highend, but at the same time reusing stock original usually works perfectly.
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A broken valve spring will (did) do it.
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Originally Posted by 93M6Formula
Hey guys, I'm trying to piece together the components for my 355 build and was wondering if there is any reason to go with link bar lifters instead the stock spider tray setup? This car sees track time quite often during the summer as well as weekly cruising. I would like to do this once and not worry about because I've seen what can happen when a spider tray fails.
Opinions?

If needed, here's what i'm doing.

Stock crank, Scat 6" rods, Mahle powerpak pistons, AI 200cc heads and 228/234 Cam, stock intake and TB.
Stock stuff will be fine for what you have.
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Just because many get by with something does not make it the best thing to do.
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
Just because many get by with something does not make it the best thing to do.
Ok, well how bout this situation, I have no OE stock lifters, and need a new set. Mild double springs, nothing fancy valvetrain wise, shift round 6400.

A "stock" replacement set are LS7 variants, so what is a good SBC alternative? Short of link bars.
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link bars are def more reliable in a high rpm application but to be honest with what you are doing there the spider set up is fine with a set of $135 LS7 lifters, that's all id run........no need to go spending crazy $$$ on fancy stuff there........when you put the spider in brakekleen the threads on the bolts and the block and just put a dab of red Loctite and they will never back off........not that they would anyway without it lol
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I only ask cause I def have a crappy (new) LS7 lifter or two in my motor and since I need to pull the engine or at least drop it down a bit to replace lifters... don't want to risk another crappy set of lifters.
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I've got Comp R's for sale, bruh, or did Bert preach the voodoo to you too? And why does everyone believe loc-tite is necessary for about every bolt on a f-body car? There is no reason to put loc-tite on the bolts for the spider tray. Just torque them down (to spec if you are OCD) and don't worry about it again.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
I've got Comp R's for sale, bruh, or did Bert preach the voodoo to you too? And why does everyone believe loc-tite is necessary for about every bolt on a f-body car? There is no reason to put loc-tite on the bolts for the spider tray. Just torque them down (to spec if you are OCD) and don't worry about it again.
Comp R's are before my time.

Loctite, lockwasher, and safety wire. Thats what you need.
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Loc-tite an opti on top of the tray. Then you'll be double fucked!
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I got a set of morel link bar lifters just because I've got a big cam and some stout springs. If I ever wanna go bigger it's just one less thing I should have to change.
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I have a set of the Caddy Racing lifters with an AFR hydra-rev kit in my new forced induction setup because I need extra spring pressure for the boost but knew it would collapse the plunger if I added stouter valvesprings.


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