nattybohsbros

Hi, So i just ordered a set of mid-tube pacesetter headers for my 94 trans am and thought i got a good deal because the "kit" was $250. I was under the impression that these headers came with a Y pipe and they would essentially just hook right up to the stock cats because the description said it would retain stock cat position. The part number is "Pace Setter 70-1335". So i was just curious if anyone is familiar with these headers and if they will require additional piping to fit and be legal and all.
thanks,
here is a link to the part on summit racing: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/psm-70-1335/overview/

JOHNNYMO

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That kit shows a Y pipe and if you have only a single cat, it should be in the same position it was. As far as connecting the cat to the Y, Im not sure how that is handled with that kit....weld in I would suspect. Let me know how that works out, I was considering the same set up.

ahritchie

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They fit just fine and include the y pipe which is in the picture, they are CARB legal in all states as described. I have these on my car, no complaints other than the gaskets they come with suck.

nattybohsbros

Awesome, great to hear i was worried i made a silly mistake but it sounds like these should fit my 94 single cat system fine. What gaskets would you suggest?

lt1-xjs

Felpro 1406.

karpetcm

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Agreed on the gaskets do not use the ones that came with it. Also use stage 8 header bolts trust me you'll be happy you did.

nattybohsbros

So, the headers came in and I am planning on installing them this weekend. I did not get the coated ones but thought I might strip the black paint off and paint them myself with some high heat enamel paint. Would this be worth it?

JOHNNYMO

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From the Pacesetter Ebay ad

PLEASE NOTE: All black painted headers are painted to prevent them from rusting while on the shelf and during shipping. To ensure the headers are going to last, you MUST strip the paint and re-coat or paint them with a header paint such as DEI Hi-Temp Silicone Coating. Click the picture below to add the paint to your cart.

leadfoot4

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I don't know if you'd want to try this on a street car, but back in the 80s, when I was involved with an oval track car, we'd sandblast the headers, put them on the car, wipe them down with a liberal coating of auto tranny fluid, then start the car, and let the ATF "burn off". This would leave them a dull grey in color, and prevent them from rusting. Just don't touch them with your hands between wiping them down, and starting the car, or your handprints will burn into the ATF, and "tattoo" the pipes.

transam_man

Is this method as preventable to rust the same painting them is? And would you need to reapply it after so many miles?

leadfoot4

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Since my experience with this method was on a race car, I can't comment on the longevity of the treatment. I was initially told about it by a couple of guys that raced on the dirt ovals, where the calcium chloride used to treat the tracks would attack the header paint that was generally used back then. Secondly, dirt cars, by nature, tend to get washed frequently, so keeping the headers from rusting is a big deal for them.

I'm assuming that the burning off of the tranny fluid causes some sort of chemical conversion, in effect "staining" the metal, similar to what a stain would do to a piece of furniture.