3.73, 3.90, or 4.10
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3.73, 3.90, or 4.10
Stock LT1, currently I swapped the stock 3.23 gear out for a 3.42 gear, car is an auto, does good but I want more. I rarely travel on the highway. I feel like 4.10 would be to much for a stock engine. 3.73 maybe? Or just stick with the 3.42 that I have already swapped too. I plan on swapping the Heads, Cam, torque converter and intake one of these days. Saving my cash up currently.
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It greatly depends on what heads/cam/tire combo you go with. Most auto owners go with 3.73's.
A good reference www.f-body.org/gears
A good reference www.f-body.org/gears
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To me, making such a small change from 3.42 to 3.73 isn't worth it. From experience with a couple of F-bodies in my family, I think 3.42's are the ideal road gear for a stock or very mild cam/heads setup in an A4 car. If track performance is your priority, go 4.10's.
Moderate to wild H/C cars definitely like 3.73's and 4.10's to best utilize the powerband in all around use.
I say stick with your 3.42's for now. Wait until you actually do a heads/cam change to decide on a potential gear swap.
If you want more performance for now, put your money toward a nice tight 3600 converter.
Moderate to wild H/C cars definitely like 3.73's and 4.10's to best utilize the powerband in all around use.
I say stick with your 3.42's for now. Wait until you actually do a heads/cam change to decide on a potential gear swap.
If you want more performance for now, put your money toward a nice tight 3600 converter.
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If all goes well my setup should consist of these mods (keep in mind some I already have)
Moroso/trick flow CAI
Holley Twin Throttle body
Holley stealth ram intake
NX 150 shot
Dart PRO1 heads
Pacesetter long tubes
2 cutouts one for each header
Lunati voodoo 294/304 cam
SS4000 stall converter
4.10 gears
Weld Draglites
M/T radials
And lastly a good tune.
I will port the intake as well as plumb it for a 150 shot of NX.
This car is going to be built specifically for the bracket racing in the 1/8th mile. It's my DD but I rarely go highway and don't have to travel far for work. Sound like a good set up? I know I'll have to mod a little for the stealth ram intake to fit.
Moroso/trick flow CAI
Holley Twin Throttle body
Holley stealth ram intake
NX 150 shot
Dart PRO1 heads
Pacesetter long tubes
2 cutouts one for each header
Lunati voodoo 294/304 cam
SS4000 stall converter
4.10 gears
Weld Draglites
M/T radials
And lastly a good tune.
I will port the intake as well as plumb it for a 150 shot of NX.
This car is going to be built specifically for the bracket racing in the 1/8th mile. It's my DD but I rarely go highway and don't have to travel far for work. Sound like a good set up? I know I'll have to mod a little for the stealth ram intake to fit.
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Moroso/trick flow CAI - Fine
Holley Twin Throttle body - Not needed save your money
Holley stealth ram intake - Complete waste of money
NX 150 shot - fine
Dart PRO1 heads - Would not run unless ported, as cast they will cost as much and not flow as much as LE or AI heads
Pacesetter long tubes - Good
2 cutouts one for each header - waste, either do an X pipe to some bullets, or throw a single cutout in the I pipe, save the extra $200
Lunati voodoo 294/304 cam - If you mean the 294/302, that is a HUGE cam, WAYYYYY too big for stock 350.
Hydraulic Roller Cam. Serious street and bracket race cam. Needs 10.5:1 compression. Makes unequalled power above 3500 RPM. Works well with moderate amounts of nitrous or small supercharger.
Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 294/302
Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 243/251
Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .560/.565
LSA/ICL: 110/106
Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
RPM Range: 2800-6800
That cam would be a DOG since you could not spin the bottom end high enough to make any useable power. Look more in the 22x/23x range.
SS4000 stall converter - sure
4.10 gears - calculate out that you want to be at the top of 3rd when you cross the traps, pick gears that way.
Weld Draglites - ok
M/T radials - ok
And lastly a good tune. - definitely.
I will port the intake as well as plumb it for a 150 shot of NX.- no need for direct port under 200 shot, get a plate on stock intake.
Moroso/trick flow CAI - Fine
Holley Twin Throttle body - Not needed save your money
Holley stealth ram intake - Complete waste of money
NX 150 shot - fine
Dart PRO1 heads - Would not run unless ported, as cast they will cost as much and not flow as much as LE or AI heads
Pacesetter long tubes - Good
2 cutouts one for each header - waste, either do an X pipe to some bullets, or throw a single cutout in the I pipe, save the extra $200
Lunati voodoo 294/304 cam - If you mean the 294/302, that is a HUGE cam, WAYYYYY too big for stock 350.
Hydraulic Roller Cam. Serious street and bracket race cam. Needs 10.5:1 compression. Makes unequalled power above 3500 RPM. Works well with moderate amounts of nitrous or small supercharger.
Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 294/302
Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 243/251
Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .560/.565
LSA/ICL: 110/106
Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
RPM Range: 2800-6800
That cam would be a DOG since you could not spin the bottom end high enough to make any useable power. Look more in the 22x/23x range.
SS4000 stall converter - sure
4.10 gears - calculate out that you want to be at the top of 3rd when you cross the traps, pick gears that way.
Weld Draglites - ok
M/T radials - ok
And lastly a good tune. - definitely.
I will port the intake as well as plumb it for a 150 shot of NX.- no need for direct port under 200 shot, get a plate on stock intake.
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Moroso/trick flow CAI - Fine
Holley Twin Throttle body - Not needed save your money
Holley stealth ram intake - Complete waste of money
NX 150 shot - fine
Dart PRO1 heads - Would not run unless ported, as cast they will cost as much and not flow as much as LE or AI heads
Pacesetter long tubes - Good
2 cutouts one for each header - waste, either do an X pipe to some bullets, or throw a single cutout in the I pipe, save the extra $200
Lunati voodoo 294/304 cam - If you mean the 294/302, that is a HUGE cam, WAYYYYY too big for stock 350.
Hydraulic Roller Cam. Serious street and bracket race cam. Needs 10.5:1 compression. Makes unequalled power above 3500 RPM. Works well with moderate amounts of nitrous or small supercharger.
Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 294/302
Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 243/251
Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .560/.565
LSA/ICL: 110/106
Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
RPM Range: 2800-6800
That cam would be a DOG since you could not spin the bottom end high enough to make any useable power. Look more in the 22x/23x range.
SS4000 stall converter - sure
4.10 gears - calculate out that you want to be at the top of 3rd when you cross the traps, pick gears that way.
Weld Draglites - ok
M/T radials - ok
And lastly a good tune. - definitely.
I will port the intake as well as plumb it for a 150 shot of NX.- no need for direct port under 200 shot, get a plate on stock intake.
Moroso/trick flow CAI - Fine
Holley Twin Throttle body - Not needed save your money
Holley stealth ram intake - Complete waste of money
NX 150 shot - fine
Dart PRO1 heads - Would not run unless ported, as cast they will cost as much and not flow as much as LE or AI heads
Pacesetter long tubes - Good
2 cutouts one for each header - waste, either do an X pipe to some bullets, or throw a single cutout in the I pipe, save the extra $200
Lunati voodoo 294/304 cam - If you mean the 294/302, that is a HUGE cam, WAYYYYY too big for stock 350.
Hydraulic Roller Cam. Serious street and bracket race cam. Needs 10.5:1 compression. Makes unequalled power above 3500 RPM. Works well with moderate amounts of nitrous or small supercharger.
Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 294/302
Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 243/251
Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .560/.565
LSA/ICL: 110/106
Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
RPM Range: 2800-6800
That cam would be a DOG since you could not spin the bottom end high enough to make any useable power. Look more in the 22x/23x range.
SS4000 stall converter - sure
4.10 gears - calculate out that you want to be at the top of 3rd when you cross the traps, pick gears that way.
Weld Draglites - ok
M/T radials - ok
And lastly a good tune. - definitely.
I will port the intake as well as plumb it for a 150 shot of NX.- no need for direct port under 200 shot, get a plate on stock intake.
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You don't need the Edelbrock intake either, No gains to be had. I can't comment on the CC503 but it's pretty well known it does well on a stock LT1.
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Stock LT1, currently I swapped the stock 3.23 gear out for a 3.42 gear, car is an auto, does good but I want more. I rarely travel on the highway. I feel like 4.10 would be to much for a stock engine. 3.73 maybe? Or just stick with the 3.42 that I have already swapped too. I plan on swapping the Heads, Cam, torque converter and intake one of these days. Saving my cash up currently.
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How much for the 4.10? I think I have a 2500 holeshot converter at the top of my shop.
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I wouldn't waste your time installing that converter, no matter what kind of "deal" you get on it. At minimum, I would go with a 9.5" Street Edge. A 3000-3200 stall would work great with those 4.10's and mild cam.
Or keep your eyes open for a used Yank, Vig, or Circle-D.
Or keep your eyes open for a used Yank, Vig, or Circle-D.
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^^^agree. It's amazing that you put a name like 'holeshot' and people think it would be great. Should be renamed to 'holeshit'. The OEM is about 1800. I had a TCI 2800 in for a while,did nothing for the 1/4. You've really should go about double the OEM rating of 1800. Now got a Yank SS3600.
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Instead of starting at 1800 where high torque application causes a sort of engagement to the drivetrain and having to climb/accelerate thru all that low horsepower part of the curve, a 'higher' stall will start more into the 'meatier' part of the curve. You're not wasting time(1/4 mile ET) climbing thru it. And that applies to every gear.
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^^^agree. It's amazing that you put a name like 'holeshot' and people think it would be great. Should be renamed to 'holeshit'. The OEM is about 1800. I had a TCI 2800 in for a while,did nothing for the 1/4. You've really should go about double the OEM rating of 1800. Now got a Yank SS3600.