Will not crank
08-03-2015, 07:00 AM
#1
Will not crank Started the car and fired up as usual, started to back the car out of the garage after about 30 seconds of run time and she just turned off, went to start it back up and no crank, all of the lights, pumps gages will turn on but she just wont crank. I checked out all of the fuses, wiring, battery voltage and all good, Replaced the ignition switch and still the same. I jumped the starter and the engine turned over but would not start, Running out of ideas.
Last edited by moehorsepower; 08-03-2015 at 07:01 AM. Reason: edit
08-03-2015, 07:13 AM
#2
Started the car and fired up as usual, started to back the car out of the garage after about 30 seconds of run time and she just turned off, went to start it back up and no crank, all of the lights, pumps gages will turn on but she just wont crank. I checked out all of the fuses, wiring, battery voltage and all good, Replaced the ignition switch and still the same. I jumped the starter and the engine turned over but would not start, Running out of ideas.
08-04-2015, 07:35 AM
#9
OK, here's the new issue, I re-checked every fuse one by one, and realized the PCM fuse in the drivers side panel was blown, ( I looked at this a couple of times) replaced the fuse and she fired up, BUT.......after about 10 seconds, it pops the fuse, of course it means a direct ground somewhere, but where?
08-04-2015, 10:24 AM
#12
OK, here's the new issue, I re-checked every fuse one by one, and realized the PCM fuse in the drivers side panel was blown, ( I looked at this a couple of times) replaced the fuse and she fired up, BUT.......after about 10 seconds, it pops the fuse, of course it means a direct ground somewhere, but where?
08-04-2015, 10:55 AM
#14
That fuse feeds PCM, MAF, theft deterrent module and fuel pump relay so something is drawing to much.
From another site.. "+12 ignition to fuse #5 (15 amp) in IP fuse block goes to splice (s205) uner dash two pink wires break out and go to FP relay and Theft Deterrent Module and one breaks out and goes out big firewall grommet and pink wires break out again to the MAS and to the PCM pins B3 and D30 at a splice near the PCM (s132) . If +12 ign is on the MAS then you got a problem in the splices or wiring. No +12 at MAS then check pink wire from fuse #5 coming out of IP fuse panel left side of dash. Never had to get that down and dirty chasing dash wires, it can be a PITA.."
From another site.. "+12 ignition to fuse #5 (15 amp) in IP fuse block goes to splice (s205) uner dash two pink wires break out and go to FP relay and Theft Deterrent Module and one breaks out and goes out big firewall grommet and pink wires break out again to the MAS and to the PCM pins B3 and D30 at a splice near the PCM (s132) . If +12 ign is on the MAS then you got a problem in the splices or wiring. No +12 at MAS then check pink wire from fuse #5 coming out of IP fuse panel left side of dash. Never had to get that down and dirty chasing dash wires, it can be a PITA.."
08-04-2015, 11:09 AM
#15
That fuse feeds PCM, MAF, theft deterrent module and fuel pump relay so something is drawing to much.
From another site.. "+12 ignition to fuse #5 (15 amp) in IP fuse block goes to splice (s205) uner dash two pink wires break out and go to FP relay and Theft Deterrent Module and one breaks out and goes out big firewall grommet and pink wires break out again to the MAS and to the PCM pins B3 and D30 at a splice near the PCM (s132) . If +12 ign is on the MAS then you got a problem in the splices or wiring. No +12 at MAS then check pink wire from fuse #5 coming out of IP fuse panel left side of dash. Never had to get that down and dirty chasing dash wires, it can be a PITA.."
From another site.. "+12 ignition to fuse #5 (15 amp) in IP fuse block goes to splice (s205) uner dash two pink wires break out and go to FP relay and Theft Deterrent Module and one breaks out and goes out big firewall grommet and pink wires break out again to the MAS and to the PCM pins B3 and D30 at a splice near the PCM (s132) . If +12 ign is on the MAS then you got a problem in the splices or wiring. No +12 at MAS then check pink wire from fuse #5 coming out of IP fuse panel left side of dash. Never had to get that down and dirty chasing dash wires, it can be a PITA.."
Yup I hate chasing electrical gremlins, Thanks, I'll start checking.
08-04-2015, 03:05 PM
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That fuse feeds PCM, MAF, theft deterrent module and fuel pump relay so something is drawing to much.
From another site.. "+12 ignition to fuse #5 (15 amp) in IP fuse block goes to splice (s205) uner dash two pink wires break out and go to FP relay and Theft Deterrent Module and one breaks out and goes out big firewall grommet and pink wires break out again to the MAS and to the PCM pins B3 and D30 at a splice near the PCM (s132) . If +12 ign is on the MAS then you got a problem in the splices or wiring. No +12 at MAS then check pink wire from fuse #5 coming out of IP fuse panel left side of dash. Never had to get that down and dirty chasing dash wires, it can be a PITA.."
From another site.. "+12 ignition to fuse #5 (15 amp) in IP fuse block goes to splice (s205) uner dash two pink wires break out and go to FP relay and Theft Deterrent Module and one breaks out and goes out big firewall grommet and pink wires break out again to the MAS and to the PCM pins B3 and D30 at a splice near the PCM (s132) . If +12 ign is on the MAS then you got a problem in the splices or wiring. No +12 at MAS then check pink wire from fuse #5 coming out of IP fuse panel left side of dash. Never had to get that down and dirty chasing dash wires, it can be a PITA.."
08-10-2015, 01:08 PM
#19
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This. Unplug all of them, then plug on in at a time until the fuse blows. Then you know which one is the problem. If the fuse blows with them all disconnected its a wiring short between the fuse and anyone of those locations.
08-10-2015, 01:31 PM
#20
No cause I figure if the MAF, or FP regulator was shorted the car wouldnt run, but Im running out of ideas so I will try that today when I get home..I also changed out he PCM this past weekend and no luck. Hopefully it will be one of these, just have to go buy a supply of 10 amp fuses!