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Old 06-10-2016, 03:26 PM
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Hey guys ive got a 94 z28 with a cc306 cam longtubes th350 3000 stall 30lb bosch injectors etc. And got a tune by keith at pcmforless n my car feels slower. It idles fine now but before it would burn em rollin now its just sad. Any help why this is happening?
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"feels slower" is such a useless description lol. Get it on a dyno to confirm power loss or have before/after track times.

SO many things could be the culprit. This is why you always pay for an actual dyno tune not a email tune.
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Having been in your shoes, I'd say the answer is "PCMforless". Good luck - their customer service sucks *** and you're pretty much on your own. I made a thread about how PCMFL completely jacked my car up and told me to pound sand even though it was 100% their tune.

Try Solomon
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By feels slower on stock tune it would burn em at 35 now its sick barely will at 10
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I cant find a dyno around the swva area its ob1 and no one fools with em where im from
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while I don't/won't use pcm4less.....OP you would have to have comparable track or dyno #'s before/after tune as your "it doesn't burn rubber..." comparison is not ....well comparable.

or send it to another tuner and chalk this up to another pcm4less fail.
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Well ill run my buddy from the same roll as before n find out but u can definitely tell when a car is runnin like **** by driving it lol
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Thanks for the input everyone i appreciate it
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I never understood why anyone would pay for a mail order tune. the only thing they are good for is disabling vats and eliminating stuff you no longer need and maybe giving you a tune good enough to drive the car to a real tuner.
A real tune needs to be adjusted after the car is running and usually takes some tweaking to get it fine tuned, If I went to a tuner and he just put in a tune and called it good before even starting the car I wouldn't pay them.
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I live 30 min from pcm of nc and I drive 3 hours to rpm motorsports I took my pcm to them 3 times and all three times it came back wrong the first time I made it all the way home on a Friday at closing time to stTt my motor for the first time and they didn't remove VATS that's day one **** bro. So then it was messed up map sensor input and the third time I'm not sure I just let rpm fix it I sat on the dyno for 2 hours before he ever started the truck trying to fix stuff I had to push it up on the rollers it wouldn't even start anymore I've mentioned this before in another thread but it's sad that there's so much lsx money to be made and ppl won't do a job right to earn it
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Originally Posted by Dimeomboost
I live 30 min from pcm of nc and I drive 3 hours to rpm motorsports I took my pcm to them 3 times and all three times it came back wrong the first time I made it all the way home on a Friday at closing time to stTt my motor for the first time and they didn't remove VATS that's day one **** bro. So then it was messed up map sensor input and the third time I'm not sure I just let rpm fix it I sat on the dyno for 2 hours before he ever started the truck trying to fix stuff I had to push it up on the rollers it wouldn't even start anymore I've mentioned this before in another thread but it's sad that there's so much lsx money to be made and ppl won't do a job right to earn it
I have an RPM tune and I am really not thrilled with it at all.
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I have a Solomon tune and man.... He was spot on. I have no complaints at all... He did everything I asked. And the car has a fairly noticeable seat of the pants difference. Gets about 2-3 more MPG if I'm just driving it too. But I mostly drive like I mean it lol...
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mine is pretty trash. Shift points suck.
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Originally Posted by Mappinsj
mine is pretty trash. Shift points suck.
Thought you had a T56 car?
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They said after a 100 miles it would work fine haha. I read pcmforless was good but i dont think ill ever fool with them again. The reason i didnt use solomon was i didnt have time to order a cord and everything but guess ill try him now
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Originally Posted by VoyagerCamaro
Thought you had a T56 car?
car is A4 swapped
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Originally Posted by Mappinsj
car is A4 swapped
You swapped to an A4? That's like getting your virginity back!
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Originally Posted by VoyagerCamaro
You swapped to an A4? That's like getting your virginity back!
Indeed it is A4 swapped for lack of T56
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Solomon will also send you the PCM, then you can datalog it and he will re-tune according to the logs to get it as close as he can. I've used PCM4L, PCMPerformance, and Solomon. PCMPerformance was excellent, but Solomon has the edge due to the one free 're-tune' he offers. And his customer service is excellent.

(Those are links, above...)
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Rpm sucks as well


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