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Old 11-16-2016, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kingtal0n
Don't worry too much what a dyno says. Anything except a dynojet is a wild swing of a possibilities. What will tell a little better is the MPH at the end of a 1/4 mile, that is the kind of thing you can compare a little easier.
At over 5k elevation, his times won't be a great comparison either.
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Originally Posted by kingtal0n
Don't worry too much what a dyno says. Anything except a dynojet is a wild swing of a possibilities. What will tell a little better is the MPH at the end of a 1/4 mile, that is the kind of thing you can compare a little easier.
That's why I can't wait to get moved. I have plans to tear into the motor and go FI. So I would like a more realistic Dyno run before I get that far into the project.

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At over 5k elevation, his times won't be a great comparison either.
Yeah, this elevation is a pain in the ***.. LoL
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Did you get actual numbers?
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Did you get actual numbers?
Im sending out a text right now so I can get the print outs. I have three ASE Tests today but ill try to get it posted ASAP.

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Love the Comp TA's... Not something you see everyday.... Kind of like a unicorn.
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OK, so here are some photos I took of the Dyno runs. Once again, the RPM Clamp is broke, so what this sheet shows for the torque numbers is the power multiplied through the entire drivetrain. The run was SAE corrected, in a couple of the photos it shows the difference in runs without the cam, springs and rockers

Edit: printer is dead and they're waiting for approval to buy a new one
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I think you just need to get some dyno runs where everything works then convert your numbers to sea level. Youll be happy. Altitude is like a HP thief.
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Originally Posted by BSmiff
I think you just need to get some dyno runs where everything works then convert your numbers to sea level. Youll be happy. Altitude is like a HP thief.
Im moving to IN so that'll be a a couple of months. That'll be a big drop from 5684FT
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Originally Posted by Ruken
Im moving to IN so that'll be a a couple of months. That'll be a big drop from 5684FT
You will notice a "YUUUUUUUUUUGE" difference.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
You will notice a "YUUUUUUUUUUGE" difference.
And instead of having a mail order tune, Ill actually be able to get the car tuned on the dyno...

EDIT: As a side note, I am still extremely happy with my mail order tune. And I want to thank Keith at PCMforless for all his help. Car runs excellent.
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Strong numbers, Mustang dyno and a 12 bolt don't really help, most people compare 10 bolt and dyno jet numbers.
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Originally Posted by BizZzatch350
Strong numbers, Mustang dyno and a 12 bolt don't really help, most people compare 10 bolt and dyno jet numbers.

Thank you, surprisingly a friend at work had to take a Auto 2012 Camaro SS for a test drive after doing some repairs on a internal RO (car is owned by the dealership) I was surprised when he got back and told me he was not impressed when comparing it to my car. He's never driven my car except around the lot. But i have taken him out to a couple of open track days on the road course as well as an empty back road once or twice.
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They don't have a graph with RPM instead of mph? If it really says 500rwtq something is wrong. If it was in RPM you could see if they crossed at 5250 rpm.

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Originally Posted by bufmatmuslepants
They don't have a graph with RPM instead of mph? If it really says 500rwtq something is wrong. If it was in RPM you could see if they crossed at 5250 rpm.

Love the comp TA. Rare as hell, beautiful.

No, the RPM Clamp is broke. The WTQ number are everything multiplied throughout the entire drive train at peak HP. There is a mathematical formula to calculate a accurate WTQ number to match the WHP numbers from the numbers provided. I forget what the heck it is though. Mainly, the WHP number is whats being looked at. They're working on getting a replacement clamp. The dyno time is free, but by the time the clamp is replaced ill be long gone.
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HP = torque * rpm /5250. Either way there's no way it made over 500 lbft to the tires, something is off. If you look at it from a before vs after, the gain is great, and about what would be expected. I wouldn't put much stock in the actual numbers. Take it to the track!

Quick hand calc assuming a 27" tire, at 103 the lines should cross at 5250 rpm, which it doesn't on the graph, so I say the graph is fubar.

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Originally Posted by bufmatmuslepants
HP = torque * rpm /5250. Either way there's no way it made over 500 lbft to the tires, something is off. If you look at it from a before vs after, the gain is great, and about what would be expected. I wouldn't put much stock in the actual numbers. Take it to the track!

Quick hand calc assuming a 27" tire, at 103 the lines should cross at 5250 rpm, which it doesn't on the graph, so I say the graph is fubar.
I know that formula and the Rule of 5252 its been stomped into my head so many times I wont ever forget it, but there's other ways that a Dyno gets its calculations and there's also another formula for this type of chart to calculate the actual WTQ. Dyno guy explained it to me but i don't actually understand it I must admit. He stated that I can use the numbers on the chart to get the TRQ at 5252. (Needing traditional information) The RPM Clamp is broke, so its a roll from 40-105mph roughly (Close to 6KRPM at the end of the run) and the computer calculates its numbers based off what it sees at the rollers. The TRQ numbers on the graph are not the actual TRQ numbers but a multiplication based off something that happens at the rollers (Dual Rollers). The WHP is Close, but as we all know can vary from Dyno to Dyno as well as other factors such as climate etc.etc....Its a big pain in my *** is what is is. Mainly we are looking at the HP increase. ACtual numbers at 5252



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