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View Poll Results: Which cam would you pick?
CompCams 304: 210/220
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2.02%
Crane 227: 210/224
10
10.10%
TPIS ZZ9: 212/226
1
1.01%
GM 845: 214/224
2
2.02%
CompCams 502: 218/224
5
5.05%
LT4 Hotcam: 218/228
20
20.20%
CompCams 305: 220/230
25
25.25%
GM 846: 222/230
27
27.27%
Lingenfelter Cam: 213/219 with 1.6rr
7
7.07%
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If you had a choice, which cam would you pick?

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Old 06-01-2006, 07:12 AM
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Default If you had a choice, which cam would you pick?

Yes, it's that time of the year again. What cam would you choose for your car?

The cam would have to meet these requirements: Has to be streetable and reliable. I know everyone's deffinition of "streetable" is different, but I'm looking for a cam that can be used daily without a stall, or at the very least a small stall. One that idle's close to stock, meaning a smooth idle over a really lopey idle. Will give good power increases throughout the power band. And will help me reach my goal of getting into the 12's on street tires. Pretty much what I'm looking for is a cam that can be installed, run like it came from the factory without having to worry about something breaking, or being a weekend/race only car.

After reading several posts on this forum and LS1Tech, I'm really leaning towards the CC305 cam due to it's decent gain in power and smoother idle over the Hotcam. But after reading the Impala SS forum, several people are running 12s with the smaller Crane 227 cam in a heavier car.
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You sir are on the right track. The hotcam and 305 are both small cams, but as you hit the nail on the head the 305 idles better. The baby crane cam also works good. Don't listen to anybody posting about a comp cam 306 being what you need. You can easily hit 12s without a cam. Personally I would go with the slightly larger cam the 305 since you are going to be spending all that money on this project might as well get a few more hp without sacrificing next to anything in driveablity.
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I would say you should add the Comp Cams 224/230 to the list (aka the cc503), it is a nice cam and very streetable. I ran it for a while and it had great street manners, a nice lopey idle and really got moving when you got on it. It can be emissions legal to boot. Just my .02.
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Originally Posted by 96blkform
I would say you should add the Comp Cams 224/230 to the list (aka the cc503), it is a nice cam and very streetable. I ran it for a while and it had great street manners, a nice lopey idle and really got moving when you got on it. It can be emissions legal to boot. Just my .02.
Great cam also, I have that cam. I didn't bother mentioning it though becuase it seems to be a little larger then what the guy really wants.
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I agree that you don't need a cam for 12's. I did it in a 6spd car with cold air, exhaust, headers, gears, pullies, and tires. But, if you want a cam with great driveability and that makes good power to 6k rpm, my vote is for the 210/227.
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the 305 or 846 would be my pick for your application
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I don't have a 6-speed
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Originally Posted by lt1 97 formula
the 305 or 846 would be my pick for your application
Ditto, but since the 305 is on a 114 LSA, it might be more streetable and it's definitely more popular.
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Originally Posted by Camaroguy22
You sir are on the right track. The hotcam and 305 are both small cams, but as you hit the nail on the head the 305 idles better. The baby crane cam also works good. Don't listen to anybody posting about a comp cam 306 being what you need. You can easily hit 12s without a cam. Personally I would go with the slightly larger cam the 305 since you are going to be spending all that money on this project might as well get a few more hp without sacrificing next to anything in driveablity.
Stock heads, stall, 2.73 gears, and totally streetable. Get a good tune and the 306 is a sweet cam. PCM4less did mine just right. I probably do have a higher threshold for what is streetable though.

My point: Don't listen to anybody posting badly about a CC306 who hasn't had one. 110+ mph traps were nothing to sneeze at given stock stall, heads, and 2.73s.
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Originally Posted by Sick99WS6
Stock heads, stall, 2.73 gears, and totally streetable. Get a good tune and the 306 is a sweet cam. PCM4less did mine just right. I probably do have a higher threshold for what is streetable though.

My point: Don't listen to anybody posting badly about a CC306 who hasn't had one. 110+ mph traps were nothing to sneeze at given stock stall, heads, and 2.73s.

Did you happen to read the first post in the thread?
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No 847

I like the baby crane cam. alot of guys are making good numbers on stock heads with it.
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I like the baby crane cam. alot of guys are making good numbers on stock heads with it.

Very true, suprising how good of #s you can get out of a tiny cam such as that. No point in over caming your car
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i got the crane 227 and i love it. i havent even dyno tuned it yet and i luv it. once i get it tuned im gonna luv it even more. i drive the car all over and in all conditions and it is super streetable with an awesome sound.
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Originally Posted by Camaroguy22
Did you happen to read the first post in the thread?
I did. And my car was a daily driver. Very little difference between that and the stock cam in terms of idle and driveability. It had a little lope in terms of actually feeling it that was not quite stock but nothing bad. You could only really tell by listening to the exhaust that it was cammed. The idle was only 200 rpm over stock too and people were telling me in an A4 that it would be ridiculous to drive. Only reason I went with that cam is because I had planned on going bigger at some point but came to find out it was a good relatively lightly modded cam also. I would toast my buddy all the time with his '94 hotcammed Z with about the same mods too.

My experience on the forums has been that not many people have actually owned a 306 but everyone likes to bash on it for streetability. It just isn't true. Now, as far as putting on heads, gears, stall, etc., it may make it alot more unstreetable. I can't claim that because I sold it before I got that far. Just debunking the myths people have made common place. My mom would drive my car on occassion and never even complained about it!
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I considered the 306, but I didn't want to get a stall and loose what gas mileage I have.
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Lets see...I have a 240/247 296/306 in the car now....

SO a solid rolloer around 258/266 would be my next choice

OH WAIT this is YOUR car.

LPE 211/219 for sure Great daily driver 7/10th gain on the wifes car and no stall or radical tuning needed
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I think a 296/306 might be a little on the excessive side for my car I'd probably loose all vacuum with that too, lol.
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Some of the older cams are quite lazy in comparison to the newer cams. Take the ZZ9 cam in your list. At .050 the intake is 212 and the exhaust is 226. Advertised is 282 and 287. That is one lazy cam.
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cc305 but Im partial, its a good blower cam also.
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I would lean towards the Lingenfelter smaller grinds or the baby Crane.

That said either will be fine with a stock stall BUT a stock car stands to gain a whole lot at the trck from a stall and cammed even moreso. I was at one time afraid of stall too but finally took the plunge and can say without hesitation a 2800 stall Edge was a better modification than the ZZ4 cam I had(208/221) today the car has a 3400 Edge in it and is fine for daily driving and quite a shocker at the strip.


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