95FbFormula

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I am putting a new opti and timing kit into my car. So I want to do a cam now since it going to be basiclt the perfect time to do it. I am thinking about a cc306 but is it to big for stock head I will also be installing Hooker LTs, 1.6RRs, new pushrods and comp Valve springs, while I am doing this just still saving for the headwork.

Will i be able to run with this set-up on stock heads in my A4 or will i have to get a converter or not be able to run it at all. I know I wont see the cams full potential till I get heads but I would like to install it while I have everything apart down there. Is there anyone running a similar set-up on stock heads.

onebadblackz

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you will have to get a new TC if I'm not mistaken.... correct me if I'm wrong... you can run it on stock heads but not get the full potential out of it.......

95FbFormula

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Yes that is what i thought I am really not worrieing about not getting full potential right away because i will do the heads just not at the same time just seems logical to do the cam while i have everything apart down there .

onebadblackz

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right.... I was going to do the same thing but I'm selling me car now

urbanhunter44

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A cc306 is a BAD match with stock heads.. if it's tuned perfectly and you have all the bolt ons you could still see 370ish rwhp (what I've seen locally from dynotunes) but the performance will be much less what it could be.

Just go for something smaller like the CC503, you'll still see 350-360 rwhp (with dynotune/bolt ons) and it'll be alot more streetable and run better.

I've driven a car with a cc306 on stock heads and it really wasn't much fun. Sure sounded mean as **** at idle though

Yes you'll need a new converter. At least 3000 or that cc306 would be a real dog. Id' recommend 3500 with a low STR to hook up better on the street.

95FbFormula

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So would a Yank 245mm, 3200 stall, 2.1 STR be good to go with or 3600 with 2.5 STR. I was looking at both of these but Would my rear end take many launches with something like that. I mean I wont be doing any hard racing or track time untill i do the head work. I dont expect it to last long anyway but will it hold up to just drving .

Cchris1109

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would a cc503 require a stall?

daniel6718

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yes any cam over stock needs a stall..too much bucking from cam surge...and ive never seen a 205 or 503 do 350 plus...ive never seen a 306 do 360 plus...
ok its a terrible match with stock heads...i run 12 flat cam only with stock heads...3200 stal land 3.73...say what you want that cam is a good cam, it makes great torque, i can break the tires loose from 40 roll...i cuts 1.62 60' on motor... the car hauls *** and still get 25mpg freeway...

need i say more???

btw all that is with a mail order tune

daniel6718

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3600 is too mcuh when you get heads and n20 it will stall tooo high .... i have a fuddle 3200 2.1str....id reccomend lower...3000

95FbFormula

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Wow some nice times what other bolt-ons do you have. So you could pretty much expect mid to low 11s with head work and that cam. LOL Wow I would be crazy not to put it in while im down there.

Burning Rubber

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I also have a cc306 in my LT1 but Mine is not running yet. But hopefully soon it will be. I have heard great things about the 306 but I have also heard some people say that there are much better grinds out there now.

95FbFormula

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Ya i have this as my current set-up that im doing in 2weeks after i run here at the track 1 last time on the 3rd so i can get a base line before and after and just because its fun lol.

MSD opti 8.5 wires. Havent decided on plugs yet.
GM performance parts LT1 timing chain kit
Hooker LTs
cc306 cam
valve train. 1.6 RR. Forged pushrods, Comp springs, spring retainers. Guides.
3000 stall Yank or TCI
A good tune Anyone know a good place to tune in or around Ohio
I will still have the 2.73s in hopeing for atleast 340-350RWHP before i get the heads done.

Revelation Z28

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have fun with the cam bearings with the block in the car lol

95FbFormula

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Ya i know its a PITA but i will be taking out the RAD and AC condesor so i might just romove everything off the front clip to make the whole job a little better.

daniel6718

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with heads id expect damn near 10's on motor...with another 60 hp...but id prolly do a custom cam at the same time...with heads and thsi cam id better be doing 11.2 or bettter....
its a great cam and leave it at that...as for my boltons...i have
stock injectors
stock t/b
stock pullies
stock ignition wires(ac delco, had the bst luck with them)
i literally have longtubes y pipe cutout, slp ls1 lid setup, cam stall and gears..

brokeTA

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If you have a competent tuner/tune you should experience very little if any cam surge. I had the cc306 on a 110 in my DD (m6 car) and it idled smooth as glass at 1k with the a/c on or off. My car ran extremely well, I never got it too the track, but beat on several cam only ls1's that were in the 11.80-12.0 range. Only mods I had was pacesetter race only lt's, ory, slp 2otl, 4.10s, electric water pump, comp nsa 1.6s. My in house tuners helps alot though...

CL21376

Where are you in Ohio?

95FbFormula

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I am in canton Ohio. I will be at dragway 42 on tuesday Oct 3rd to Run my car for the last time before I tear it down. and to get a base line for before and after.

azvforce

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I have been running the CC306 and 1.6rrs with stock heads for over three years and it absolutely kicks ***. My dyno curve is *identical* to a friends LE2 setup, except I make 8 more ftlbs of torque than he does. He makes 8 more hp than me though. I peak at 371rwhp/358rwtq and he does 379rwhp/350rwtq.

My car is totally streetable and has been since I got a good dyon tune.