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Old 12-09-2007, 09:35 PM
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Default Track times with AI 200cc heads and AI Trick Flows

I put my LT1 build up on hold for a while. I am going to start building the shortblock pretty soon. I need to decide on which package.

I have been dead set on going with an AI 200CC heads and cam package, but I recently saw somone with a kick *** AI TFS combo.

I am looking for mostly track times, but if you have dyno numbers you can post them to.
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No one?"

So far what I have found:
AI 200cc:
1. Rick Abare's 94 TA 9.88@138 3470lb (not typical)
2. 383 LT1, 1.37 60ft 6.68 @ 100.5 mphc(1/8) 3380lb raceweight
3. Forged 385 1.83 60ft, 11.64@122.51mph (1/4) - 445rwhp 421rwtq

Ai trickflow heads:
1. Jeff Gilbert's 96 TA 396cid LT1 215cc CNC'd TFS LT1's 9.06 @ 151. (also not typical)
2. 383 11.5 to 1, best e.t 10.69 na best mph 128.8 na

I need more every day combos!
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I'll hopefully have some results on my stock bottom end car in around a month. I'm hoping to finish it this weekend then I just need to get tuned. They have quite a bit of results on their results page if you haven't been there yet. One thing I can say is the quality on these heads is amazing and their customer service is great as well.
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Damn, man, what kind of a car are you looking to build? Most of those numbers you posted don't look like they'd be good on the street (if they are all motor passes anyway).
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Why not step up and get the 215s

Either way AI is proven and has great service and proven results.
Ive worked with them twice now
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Give AI a call and let them know the setup you are using and what your goals are and they will tell you the right heads and cam pakage for your engine. Thats what I did and they gave me exactly what I needed.

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Which would be what?^^^^^ Looks pretty nasty, due to your avatar
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
Damn, man, what kind of a car are you looking to build? Most of those numbers you posted don't look like they'd be good on the street (if they are all motor passes anyway).
I tend to do my build ups on the mild side, my Notch has a 331 with very small AFR's (165s) a baby cam (220/220 .498/.498), and a box stock 93 Cobra intake with a stock pullied S-Trim.

My 95 (mustang) is has a 4.6 that is stock from the eaton blower to the oil pan and has ran a 10.89 @ 129.9.

With all that bieng said, I want to build this one a little more radical. I want a perfectly matched BIG combo that will get me well into the 10s on pump gas with all the right supporting mods and traction. After I get it dialed in N/A it will be ready for a BIG direct port kit and some race gas.
As long as I can take it for a short cruise, I will be happy with it. I will be trailoring it to the track, so no worrys there.

BTW, this is my wifes car, lol. we plan on getting an 01 or 02 WS6 for her daily driver soon.
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Give AI a call and let them know the setup you are using and what your goals are and they will tell you the right heads and cam pakage for your engine. Thats what I did and they gave me exactly what I needed.
I talked to Ron last year, at the time I was only planning on doing the 185CC H/C package with my 561s on a stock lower end. He also gave me some very good info about the 200cc package if I wanted to step it up a notch.
I probably will be giving him a call again very soon.

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Why not step up and get the 215s

Either way AI is proven and has great service and proven results.
Ive worked with them twice now
215 ported Lt1s? If I do the stock heads I'll go with the 200CC package.
If I go with the trick flows, I'm going with the big port.
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It is at 3500# race weight with a 383, Ai 215 TFS heads, Ai custom sollid roller cam, Ai converted accel pro ram intake, th350, 4000 stall 12 bolt with 4.56 gears and basiclly stock rear suspension. The cam is street divable but not something I would want as a daily driver. I am going to upgrade the whole suspension this winter to try for 1.3x 60' times and maybe I can knock off a couple of tenths from the 1/4 times.
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Originally Posted by mpe331lx
With all that bieng said, I want to build this one a little more radical. I want a perfectly matched BIG combo that will get me well into the 10s on pump gas with all the right supporting mods and traction. After I get it dialed in N/A it will be ready for a BIG direct port kit and some race gas.
As long as I can take it for a short cruise, I will be happy with it. I will be trailoring it to the track, so no worrys there.
I am really happy with my combo from AI. It could be a D.D. with no problem. The cam is a little on the large side, but not huge. As you can tell from the time, it runs great for a full weight car and suspension not setup for drag racing. With some suspension work, bigger slicks, and lighter weight, the car could probably hit 10's. With even more work and an auto, mid-high 10's could even happen.
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Originally Posted by 94greencamaro
Why not step up and get the 215s

Either way AI is proven and has great service and proven results.
Ive worked with them twice now
I wish I has the money for those heads.I would buy them in a second
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Big cubes and a solid roller is a must IMO. I wish I went solid roller and most likely will one day. You know it's all about combo anyway. About time you started on the LT1.
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I believe if you search the CZ28 drag racing section you will find results for street car auto 200cc setup that "Grease" is running. I think it went mid to low 11s at 118 to 119. Much milder than some of the other combos with times posted above.

Also why not consider the times of the 190cc heads? They perform only a bit less than the 200cc heads (no comparison to the TFS 215 heads though). There are a number of Mid to low 11 second motor cars and faster just on thier website.

Also, call and talk to them about results. Just because you can't read about it on the internet doesn't mean they don't have other customers posting big numbers. Call them up.



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