white phoenix

So i stored my TA in a garage for the winter. I took the battery out and parked it. I remember last time i think i loosened one of the coil wires so that if someone did try to start it with a battery it wouldnt go anywhere. Again i think it was last time but it could have been this past winter.

Anyways the car will turn over all day long without a problem (or until the battery dies). When I press on the fuel line shrader valve there is fuel pressure and it sprays out a good bit. I checked each and every fuse and they are all fine. I unplugged each and every electrical connection i could get my hands on in the engine compartment. I checked each spark plug wire to make sure they were on the plugs all the way and tightly pressed into the opti...

So heres what i conclude:
-Battery is fine
-Fuses are fine
-Car has fuel pressure

So i figure my problem is in the ignition or some electrical fitting i couldnt get my hands on (but if i cant reach it now i couldn't when i stored it). So what are the possibilities? The opti is pretty new and worked fine in December. The coil is still the OEM. I have newer MSD wires and NGK plugs.

Where the hell is my problem? For the love of god i just want to hear it get some spark and fire up... it just turn and turns and turns and wont fire

noriceinside

iTrader: (6)

are you getting spark? just take the #1 off and have someone crank it. see if youve got spark. the fuel just might be completely wasted. i dont live in an area where we store cars for the winter (sounds f-ing rediculous to me---move to cali ) but i know gasoline has a short shelf life.

carlos64030

iTrader: (5)

Gasoline's shelf life isn't that short. I wouldn't rule out bad fuel though. I guess he could drain out the old fuel and put in some fresh fuel. Did you put any type of fuel preservative in the tank before storage?

white phoenix

no fuel preserves i know... i know lol. It was only stored for 5 months. As for Cali, i just moved back to michigan from Arizona. Lived there 4 years and my car was in storage every winter because i never brought it down with me. I have an R1 for AZ

carlos64030

iTrader: (5)

Instead of cranking the engine, try cycling the ignition on and off 10 ten times.

white phoenix

i have cycled it... i cant imagine cycling it would do anything for the ignition though. Im getting plenty of fuel right now. I have a walboro 255 and its nice and loud haha

carlos64030

iTrader: (5)

My suggestion didn't directly have anything to do with the ignition. I was thinking more along the lines of a possible ECM issue.

white phoenix

ah i see what your saying. As for the ECM its only one year old lol. The old one was fine but when i was having problems with the car my dad insisted it get replaced because the old one had different codes disabled like the AIR. He payed so i got a free new one, so im thinking that is fine. Im just waiting on a buddy to help me trace the ignition with a DMM and check to see where the power is stoping...

Ill try the plug number one tomorrow night so it will be easy to see

porksoda

iTrader: (39)

Also make sure your getting fire at the coil and at the wires, lastly check the ICM.

phrozen755

iTrader: (5)

Exactly what I was going to say...check the ICM.

white phoenix

is the ICM the plate behind the coil? Also whats the safest best way to check for spark at the coil?

porksoda

iTrader: (39)

Yes that is it. The coil is actually bolted to it too. As for checking them you can take both of them to a parts store and they can test them for free. Or the way I did it (may not be the best way) I just took off the coil wire and had someone crank it as I watched the spark from the coil jump around!

white phoenix

yea the spark from the coil would hurt thats why i dont want to try. Getting 220v from a house was enough for me...

porksoda

iTrader: (39)

You don't have to touch it just pull the wire off and have someone crank it and see if it sparks. It's not like it will shoot out at you or anything. BTW 220 from a house will freeze you in your spot! Not fun.

white phoenix

yea one summer i worked a construction job when i was in school. We did mostly remodeling and we were at a place with a drop ceiling. Well i climbed up and put my hand in there trying to get something down. Well i grabed a uncovered intersection of 220. I was frozen on the ladder. The guy working with he had to pull me off the ladder and i just fell on the ground. It was a bit of a jolt.

white phoenix

so i checked and im not getting any spark from the coil. I replaced the coil and the module and still nothing. Turns over until the cows come home. I depress the shrader valve on the fuel line and there is pressure everytime (walboro 255). So i have fuel and i have power... but no spark?

I dont want to just go around the car replacing every single sensor... im thinkin maybe the crank position sensor? Thats the pickup for the coil right? If that went bad over the winter would it cause this problem?

I also went through all the electrical connections and sprayed them with electrical cleaner... still nothing...

I just sit there trying **** and hoping that one time it turns over ill hear the bitch fire up.

white phoenix

Could it possibly be the VATS system? i used both keys i have and still nothing. If it was the vats would it even turn over?

Dadic 78

have you scanned for any codes???

white phoenix

will it register codes if it wont start? The check engine light is on when i turn the ignition on but i thought that was normal till the car actually started up.

Dadic 78

to have the SES light on during startup is normal, however you may have codes stored as a result of a part failure, issue, etc... I'd recommend scanning it, and see what you come up with. If you don't have datalogging software, you can buy a data cable at www.aldlcable.com and download a free trial version of Datamaster TT for your evaluation purposes. It's a worth-while investment.