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Old 09-19-2008, 02:43 PM
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Default H/C/I how much did u guys pay

i wanna do H/C/I this winter and i just wanted to c wat u all payed for urs? i just figured that itd be $2156 to do this and that price is for:
ported intake
LE1 budget heads
comp cams xfi
timing chain
pushrods
rockers
lifters
gasket set
and an opti

is all this neccassary can i do this for less or is this about wat u all spent?
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Don't forget 7/16" studs, guideplates, larger injectors, head bolts, installation and tuning.
You'll also need coolant, oil and oil filters.
You'll probably want to do the air and fuel filters while you are at it. (might as well start clean)

This would also be a good time to install LT headers if you want the extra performance (and can get away with it)

Make sure your gasket kit includes head gaskets, Intake manifold gasket set,
Exhaust gaskets, timing cover set, valve cover gaskets and a larger TB gasket for your 58mm.
A typical complete engine kit does, but you end up with felpro .39" head gaskets and stock port TB gaskets.
I recommend GM "Impala" Lt1 gaskets, they're only .29" which is good for a few extra HP.

Why the non LE cam (if I may ask)?
He has some great grinds available that are proven to work with these setups.

I don't remember what my total was when I did it, but I did document my shopping list at http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2297151/4
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well becuz the heads cam package from him is 1100 and 750 for just heads (this is the budget ones) that would be a $350 cam instead of 250 so it would be a bit more then i came up with?
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Originally Posted by z28rob18
well becuz the heads cam package from him is 1100 and 750 for just heads (this is the budget ones) that would be a $350 cam instead of 250 so it would be a bit more then i came up with?
I see, I hadn't noticed that before.
With the other setups the cam is only $300.

Can't blame you there.
Cost VS Benefit decisions are always tough when doing these things.

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Why injectors james?
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Why injectors james?
I suppose that all depends on the size of the cam being used and what he has on the car now.
The 22x/23x cam I used was too big for my stock injectors, I used 30# SVO injectors and they were barely large enough at redline.
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the cams i think 280/288 wit 1.6 rockers and all my mods r in my sig
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Originally Posted by z28rob18
the cams i think 280/288 wit 1.6 rockers and all my mods r in my sig
What's the duration @ .050" ?

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duration @ .05 is 230/236
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Originally Posted by z28rob18
duration @ .05 is 230/236
That's actually bigger than my LE1HL was, the stock injectors will be beyond 85% duty cycle and performance will suffer.
Pick up a set of 36# injectors.
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alright i really wanna do this work but its gonna kill me ima hav to save 3 full months of pay to do this. someone said that doin this could turn the car into a smoker i kinda ignored this cuz its almost a complete rebuild accept the bottum end.also with this set up and the 100 shot im installing no u think i can hit 11s?
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Originally Posted by z28rob18
alright i really wanna do this work but its gonna kill me ima hav to save 3 full months of pay to do this. someone said that doin this could turn the car into a smoker i kinda ignored this cuz its almost a complete rebuild accept the bottum end.also with this set up and the 100 shot im installing no u think i can hit 11s?
I ran 11's with a smaller cam, LE2 heads and no N20. I did that in a full-weight car on DRs.
I later found out that I had actually done it with two broken valvesprings

So yeah, with an H/C car, even one making less than 400RWHP,
you should be able to hit 11s without any issue using a 100 shot.

FWIW,
I'd spend the $200 you were going to spend on that ported plenum and put it into getting the better heads and cam combo.
You can always come back and do the intake later if you want to. It's much easier than doing H/C all over again.
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alright thats good to hear i guess its time to start savin or start buyin the things im gonna need
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Originally Posted by z28rob18
alright thats good to hear i guess its time to start savin or start buyin the things im gonna need
If you're not in a huge hurry, a lot of the parts you will need come up for sale
in the for sale section every so often. People change their minds a lot and
that gives you an opportunity to buy brand new parts at a discount when
they try to sell them to finance their new project.

That's actually how I came across my heads in the first place.
It's also how I sold them, now someone else will be enjoying them.
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thanx for the advice im not in a hurry just wanna finish b4 next race season after i get some bills ill start lookin there
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Oh, also make sure that Lloyd know which cam you are using when you order the heads.
He'll have to ensure that he installs springs than can handle the lobes.
You don't want to end up floating at high RPM.
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Originally Posted by James Montigny
I suppose that all depends on the size of the cam being used and what he has on the car now.
The 22x/23x cam I used was too big for my stock injectors, I used 30# SVO injectors and they were barely large enough at redline.
That was with heads correct? Good to know James.
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Originally Posted by chavez885
That was with heads correct? Good to know James.
Yes, I had LE2 heads at the time.
Ed Wright (Fastchip.com) did the tuning on his dyno so you know it was spot on.



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