LT1 swap,,,
10-07-2008, 10:02 AM
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Anything can be done with time and money but if you are asking if it is a straight forward swap I would say no. The cost of doing it would far outweigh the cost of just building a LSX engine for the Z06 even with the 396 in hand.
10-07-2008, 10:21 AM
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yea i was wondering why you would put an LT in a car that is already set up for the LS? i mean i am a total loyal LT guy but buying an LS series car and putting an LT in? i'd rather do that the other way as in LS motor and LT series car.
but your call i guess we didnt really answer your question, and im sure it can be done fairly easily if you get the certain things to clear the lower clearances on the Vett.
but your call i guess we didnt really answer your question, and im sure it can be done fairly easily if you get the certain things to clear the lower clearances on the Vett.
10-07-2008, 11:32 AM
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he wants to put the ltx motor in the car...let him do it...it would be cool!!!yes its possible...
send your wiring harness to speartech and have them rework it, then get the right motor mounts..the trans for a vette has a longer tailshaft so if your going with auto get the right tranny, or do a 350/400 swap or if its a 6 spd get the right bellhousing...shoud go right in there...GOODLUCK!!
send your wiring harness to speartech and have them rework it, then get the right motor mounts..the trans for a vette has a longer tailshaft so if your going with auto get the right tranny, or do a 350/400 swap or if its a 6 spd get the right bellhousing...shoud go right in there...GOODLUCK!!
10-07-2008, 11:40 AM
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If you're going to do something weird, do a twin turbo Direct Injection 3.6L V6! I mean, since you have to swap everything in anyways 
Info on the 3.6 (Need Excel or Excel Viewer):
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...6/09_LLT_n.xls
This is a cool site I stumbled on as well, has all the new GM motors and trans for cars and trucks, with all the info you need about them (except specifics like cam specs and so forth)
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...ars/index.html
Info on the 3.6 (Need Excel or Excel Viewer):
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...6/09_LLT_n.xls
This is a cool site I stumbled on as well, has all the new GM motors and trans for cars and trucks, with all the info you need about them (except specifics like cam specs and so forth)
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...ars/index.html
10-07-2008, 03:31 PM
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gonna be tough since the trans doesnt bolt up to the engine it bolts to the rear end in the c5 and c6's.
you may have to replace the entire driveline to do this swap...or have some kind of adapter plate made...idk id just save for the ls7 it came with...
you may have to replace the entire driveline to do this swap...or have some kind of adapter plate made...idk id just save for the ls7 it came with...
10-07-2008, 03:59 PM
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The LSX Series Engines are a little shorter than the LT1's and SBC's, the back of the Block where the Transmission bolts to on a Gen I/LT1 has about 1.5" more meat than the back side of the block of an LSX Engine.
The Corvette's Drivetrain consists of what is called a Torque Sleve. It bolts directly to the back of the Engine, and the shast inside of that bolts directly to the Crank. If you mount in your LT1, it's going to have to mount 1.5" forward of the Motor Mounts for the LSX Engine.
Basically it's going to be a shitload more work than it's worth. The LT1 will bolt to the Torque Sleve in all the holes except for 3 of them, but then you have to line up the Shaft that bolts to the Drive Shaft.
Moving something back is easier than moving something forward, cause then clearance issues come into play.
Personally I would go LSX..it really would be alot simpler.
Where is it..I'll buy it and drop in my 402..
The Corvette's Drivetrain consists of what is called a Torque Sleve. It bolts directly to the back of the Engine, and the shast inside of that bolts directly to the Crank. If you mount in your LT1, it's going to have to mount 1.5" forward of the Motor Mounts for the LSX Engine.
Basically it's going to be a shitload more work than it's worth. The LT1 will bolt to the Torque Sleve in all the holes except for 3 of them, but then you have to line up the Shaft that bolts to the Drive Shaft.
Moving something back is easier than moving something forward, cause then clearance issues come into play.
Personally I would go LSX..it really would be alot simpler.
Where is it..I'll buy it and drop in my 402..
10-07-2008, 05:09 PM
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Thanks for the great and quick responses,since I am not very mechanicly inclined and will have to have it done I guess I will wait to find a whole Z06,,,,,
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You'd be foolish to not buy that one and drop in a Frankenstein motor like Merv built. Assuming that car has the trans still in it, you're set basically. If it doesn't, well I'm not sure how much one cost and if you can just use a normal, say 6L80E, but w/o the tail shaft housing on it. Still, I'm willing to bet my car that the price of a COMPLETE car vs the cost you'd have into buying that one and stuffing in a motor AND trans, is still quite a bit more. Then again, you didn't tell us how much the Vette is running you.
10-07-2008, 08:40 PM
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^^ All the Z06's are Manuals, the MN6 I believe. It's a pain in the ***** to put an Auto in them. Mechanically and Electrically. You have to run the Cooler Lines somewhere too..that's if you can get the ones from a A4 Vette Cheap, and good luck with that.
That and have you seen the size of a 6L80E, without the Tailshast it's as big as a damn 350 Block..that's not goin to fit in the *** of the Vette as well as you think..lol
That and have you seen the size of a 6L80E, without the Tailshast it's as big as a damn 350 Block..that's not goin to fit in the *** of the Vette as well as you think..lol
10-07-2008, 11:29 PM
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^^ All the Z06's are Manuals, the MN6 I believe. It's a pain in the ***** to put an Auto in them. Mechanically and Electrically. You have to run the Cooler Lines somewhere too..that's if you can get the ones from a A4 Vette Cheap, and good luck with that.
That and have you seen the size of a 6L80E, without the Tailshast it's as big as a damn 350 Block..that's not goin to fit in the *** of the Vette as well as you think..lol
That and have you seen the size of a 6L80E, without the Tailshast it's as big as a damn 350 Block..that's not goin to fit in the *** of the Vette as well as you think..lol
Anyways, not the point LOL
If it has the tranny or not, I still feel that creating a motor like your 402 would yield very nice performance (even with the iron block, which isn't a must-use) from the parts used in other stock motors.
EDIT: Quit bit from a Speartech posting on 6LxxE
"The ratios are the same between the 80 and the 90. The 90 gets beefier parts and thicker gears making it 35mm longer. The 6L80 is actually a little shorter than the 4L60E. We had to actually LENGTHEN the driveshaft for our project."
I won't deny the size of that 6L is quite rotund lol
EDIT2 (last one): Here's the 6L for the Vette, but I'm willing to bet the M6 would be cheaper if you had to get it, but seeing as you'd need a new computer tune either way (for the Frankenstein motor) you could go either route.
Vette 6L80E
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10-08-2008, 10:17 AM
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I'd still stick with the Manual..anyday. I'm sick of having an Auto, it keeps fckn breaking..
Atleast I know that if I smooth shift my new T56 and cruise it, it will last forever..and I can actually take the thing on a 2+hr drive without worrying about it breaking.
Atleast I know that if I smooth shift my new T56 and cruise it, it will last forever..and I can actually take the thing on a 2+hr drive without worrying about it breaking.