T56 98-02
03-27-2010, 03:13 PM
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T56 98-02 This site basically says that the T56's in the 98-02 bird are Very unreliable.
What are your experiences? Is this true?
http://www.rpmmotorsportstulsa.com/6speed.htm
What are your experiences? Is this true?
http://www.rpmmotorsportstulsa.com/6speed.htm
03-27-2010, 09:36 PM
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Thats a very interesting writeup but I would like to know how they came up with the 60-75% of them have problems idea. This is the first that I have heard of the A4 being more reliable than the M6. I do believe the hydraulics going out can cause problems with the M6 like shift forks bending & other internal damage. They mention expensive tools & equipment are required to rebuild the T56, I remember reading a post on here about how simple & easy they are to rebuild. So no, I am not paranoid because of reading that. Mine has over 120k on it & its still workin great but I did replace pretty much everything within 2 yrs of owning it: clutch, master & slave, shifter.
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03-27-2010, 09:53 PM
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The T56 is a great transmission, one of the best manuals on the market.
It does have some problem areas, however. The 3-4 shift fork is aluminum in f-bodies, and isn't terribly hard to break (the Viper used a steel shift fork). Syncho keys are also prone to breaking, and I had this happen in my 2002 SS with 27k.
It's pretty easy to get upgraded replacement parts, however. I drive my car pretty easy, and still busted the syncho keys. I replaced them with billet keys, and replaced the shift fork while I was in there.
This article sounds like it is really over exaggerating. It takes a lot to break any of these parts, and you'd have to be hard on your tranny to do it (of course, there are odd circumstances like mine). The T56 is known to handle a lot more hp with stock internals.
It does have some problem areas, however. The 3-4 shift fork is aluminum in f-bodies, and isn't terribly hard to break (the Viper used a steel shift fork). Syncho keys are also prone to breaking, and I had this happen in my 2002 SS with 27k.
It's pretty easy to get upgraded replacement parts, however. I drive my car pretty easy, and still busted the syncho keys. I replaced them with billet keys, and replaced the shift fork while I was in there.
This article sounds like it is really over exaggerating. It takes a lot to break any of these parts, and you'd have to be hard on your tranny to do it (of course, there are odd circumstances like mine). The T56 is known to handle a lot more hp with stock internals.
03-27-2010, 09:56 PM
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That's hard on the eyes to read. I agree though, it looks like they're trying to sell their vehicles with that info. This is my favorite part:
Repairing or rebuilding a T56 will cost between $1500 and $3000........ if you can find anyone who knows how. It takes special tooks to disassemble a T-56 transmission, tools that most shops don't have. Additionally, T-56 parts are extremely expensive. For this reason, nobody fixes them, they just sell off their broken cars and that's what you have today.......... most of the 6-speeds for sale as having problems.
03-28-2010, 03:51 AM
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Yeah this guy is a salesman. He's making up most of what's on his website. A quote "At this point, 95% of the Camaros and Firebirds out there for sale are junky, beat up cars.". Nice opinions and nice made up statistics. I guess all of us at ls1tech make up 5% of the nice ones.
03-28-2010, 05:38 AM
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That's so full of fail..
I rebuilt mine with a basic set of Snap Ring Plyers, Socket Set, Hammer & a Punch Set, a Press and a Craftsman Puller that I had to customize. I also used a Dial Inticator.
I have about $900 into my re-build, and that was with the Tick Stage II Kit and some extra parts I needed.
There is a version with a weaker 2nd Gear. That is the one that I had, I killed the 2nd Gear in it and replaced it with the stronger Gear.
You kill a Gear in a T56 and more than likely you are getting home..that goes for a majority of the parts. You kill something in an Auto and you are done.
I rebuilt mine with a basic set of Snap Ring Plyers, Socket Set, Hammer & a Punch Set, a Press and a Craftsman Puller that I had to customize. I also used a Dial Inticator.
I have about $900 into my re-build, and that was with the Tick Stage II Kit and some extra parts I needed.
There is a version with a weaker 2nd Gear. That is the one that I had, I killed the 2nd Gear in it and replaced it with the stronger Gear.
You kill a Gear in a T56 and more than likely you are getting home..that goes for a majority of the parts. You kill something in an Auto and you are done.
03-28-2010, 08:23 AM
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I've had my 99 since it came from the factory and this article is pretty true to my experience. I lost a syncro and a gear very early on. I had my transmission rebuild with steel forks, etc. and its been perfect ever since.
The transmission was just "de-tuned" on F-bodies to safe weight and costs. Beef it up like they did for Vipers, etc. and its great.
The transmission was just "de-tuned" on F-bodies to safe weight and costs. Beef it up like they did for Vipers, etc. and its great.
03-28-2010, 08:42 AM
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My car saw two transmission swaps before I bought it and the previous owner did a GM Buy-Back at ~17,500 miles on the car. Then I bought it. The trans lasted three years with me and then puked.
They hold fine for the 'normal' driver, but they are somewhat weak when you start modding the car.
They hold fine for the 'normal' driver, but they are somewhat weak when you start modding the car.
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