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Old 05-24-2010, 07:39 PM
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I just had a Spec Stage 2+ installed in my '02 camaro and noticed that the clutch pedal engages about an inch from the floor. Does anyone else who has this clutch have their pedal catch this early?
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I believe that's a matter of the master cylinder being adjusted. In fact, that's the way I prefer it but I'm going to fab a different pivot design for the pedal to shorten the overall travel.

If I could have a pedal that travels 8" and engages through the 1"-7" range I'd be a happy camper
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Master cylinder is tight, we bled the clutch for 45 minutes and it's still notchy while shifting and really hard to get into reverse...
Old 05-25-2010, 10:37 PM
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I had the SPEC 2+ installed in September and mine engages about the same. I bled the **** out of it and the shifting improved but engagement never changed. I also still have a problem shifting at high rpm. Doesn't want to go into gear cleanly. I'm finally going with the Tick Master Cylinder next week. This should take care of both issues
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I had all kinds of high rpm shifting issues with my spec. Pulled the spec and installed an Exedy Hyper twin with the same hydros bleed just the way I did the spec and guess what! No more sticky clutch pedal with stock hydraulics! Imagine that!
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my monster level 3 engages about 1in from the top..... and i have a tick as well.
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The engagement really doesn't bother me. It's the notchy shifting that is the issue. After the 45 minutes spent bleeding the clutch last night I still had to force it into reverse and sometimes it wouldn't even go into reverse. My buddy is checking the car out today.
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What bleed method have you been using?
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What bleed method have you been using?
We did it from where you fill the fluid as well as on the transmission.
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I installed a Spec 2+ in my 01' about 3 years ago, and have put about 7k miles on it after the break in process. Mine engaged at the exact same place, my reverse was hard as could be also, however that was because my reverse solenoid was not plugged in...dummy me, this also caused my reverse lights to not work, I plugged that back in on the tranny and it worked like a charm. The pedal engagement has never changed, but I would definately consider going with an adjustable master, simply to take out any potential shimming problems.
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Originally Posted by steiro01Z
I installed a Spec 2+ in my 01' about 3 years ago, and have put about 7k miles on it after the break in process. Mine engaged at the exact same place, my reverse was hard as could be also, however that was because my reverse solenoid was not plugged in...dummy me, this also caused my reverse lights to not work, I plugged that back in on the tranny and it worked like a charm. The pedal engagement has never changed, but I would definately consider going with an adjustable master, simply to take out any potential shimming problems.

My reverse lights work so I'm assuming that plug is plugged in. Sigh I really hope I don't have to replace the master right now lol
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With my spec the shifts were notchy too. Just didn't feel smooth. The new twin shifts like butter! I've never driven a clutch so smooth.
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With my spec the shifts were notchy too. Just didn't feel smooth. The new twin shifts like butter! I've never driven a clutch so smooth.
There has to be a solution for the notchy shifting. My master cylinder was replaced maybe 10k miles ago......
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My SPEC 2+ was like that also... after it died on me and I upgraded to the 3+ I also installed a Tick MC, new slave and a speed bleeder. Shifts pretty damn good now. I forgot what is was like to be able to shift on the floor again.
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I'm sure you can upgrade you hydros and fix the notchy shifting issues. You shouldn't have to but a lot have had success doing that. I drive a caddy and I'm stuck with the stock hydros unless I want to fab something which I don't. I have no choice butt to find a clutch that works with stock hydrolics and can still handle 500rwhp. My Exedy twin does all of the above! : )
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Well my buddy told me chances are it's the master and I will need to change to an adjustable master............ah crap lol
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Got the car back and the car shifts MUCH better but it's still having issues with reverse. Could the shifter assembly need to be adjusted?







I am going to buy the tick master cylinder but not right now.
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If the new master helped everything but reverse then it is possible that you are seeing an issue with the shifter or even with reverse. Where does engagement occur now?
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Originally Posted by SPEC-01
If the new master helped everything but reverse then it is possible that you are seeing an issue with the shifter or even with reverse. Where does engagement occur now?
We actually didn't install a new master. He vacuum bled the clutch.

Engagement is the same but it doesn't bother me now that I'm used to it. I actually find it easier to drive haha. I'm going to play around with the shifter assembly and see if there is an issue there.
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Anyone have any ideas what would cause reverse to be so hard to shift into but the rest of the gears being normal?


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