spydog

i have ben looking for a clutch and have ben looking at the monster stage 1 and stage 2 but i cant deside what is better for me i have a 1999 trans am stock except for the volant cold air intake some exhaust work ram air hood and a strut tower brace other than that the car is stock i dont race ar the track but i do get on it every know and than that is everyones thoughts on my setup?

Silver98Formula79

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I just installed the Monster level 2 clutch with an 18lb flywheel. I have about 400 miles on it. It drives real close to the LS6 clutch I had. I don't have any chatter.

I got the level 2 so I have the ability to add more power (heads/cam) later and not worry about the clutch. If you can swing it, the Tick Master Cylinder is awesome and the speedbleeder makes bleeding easy.

SNLPerformance

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You'd be fine with the 1, but as mentioned above I'd go with the level 2 and 18lb flywheel as there is no downside in driveability. The Tick is nice unit if looking for the fastest shifts possible, keep in mind it will increase the peddle effort if that is a concern. We always install a remote bleeder when installing a clutch here to ease initial and future bleeding required with the slave being in the bellhousing, so I always recommend one. Don't hesitate if you have any questions, Chris 817-750-2000

spydog

will the monster stage 1 or stage 2 come with a Speedbleeder?

spydog

also are the monster stage 1 and 2 a direct bolt in or?

Silver98Formula79

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No they don't come with a speedbleeder its extra, and they are a direct "bolt-on".

Zlow28

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stage 2 with lightweight flywheel here. Drives great for a DD.

bigken

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I have a stage 2 monster, I have 4 or 5 thousand miles on it now and I am very happy with it. I can shift the car all day at my 6,300 rpm shift point and not get a spongy pedal at all it's great! I am going to put the same clutch in my wife's WS6 after the cam install.
I don't think you can go wrong with either and it's not much more to have the level 2.
Just my .02

spydog

Thanks for all the good input i think i have one last question is there a physical difference between 1and 2? From all the good input i am leaning towards the stage 2

Silver98Formula79

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I think the difference is the composites of the clutch disks. The pressure plate is the same all the way up to level 4 kits from what I have read.

SNLPerformance

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That is correct

bhwunder

I'd go with the stage 2 if I were you, I just installed one on mine two weekends ago and there isn't really any drawbacks going with the stage 2 instead of 1 besides price, but I got mine 20% off Also from what I've been told monster is thinking of going away with the stage 1 since it isn't a very big seller?

TheBlueKnight

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It's a pretty straight forward install. You can skip through my "how to" video to get a sense of what is involved. I got a stage 1 as I would never do anything more than bolt ons and very rarely hit the track. I also wanted an organic clutch disc material vs the stage 2's kevlar disc.

bhwunder

[QUOTE=TheBlueKnight;18034899]It's a pretty straight forward install. You can skip through my "how to" video to get a sense of what is involved. I got a stage 1 as I would never do anything more than bolt ons and very rarely hit the track. I also wanted an organic clutch disc material vs the stage 2's kevlar disc.

Hey thanks for posting the video it definitely helped when I installed mine

wavebyby

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great video man !!!, Ive watched that video about 100 times before i did mine which I took the trans out today ( first time ever doing it ) but cant get the top three bolts on the bell housing what did u use to remove them ?

TheBlueKnight

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Lots of extensions. I think a few of the top bolts I did from inside the car right through where the shifter comes through the floor.

wavebyby

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yea i did that for the tranny , didnt think about that for the bell housing ill try that tonight thanks

TheBlueKnight

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Gah, sorry, didn't read it was the bellousing for some reason. I had to use a couple extensions and swivels. I pretty sure I had to use two swivels. Those things were a pain. I'm suprised one of my swivels didn't snap breaking those bolts loose.