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Old 03-15-2014, 10:30 AM
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Default Bolt in T56 Magnum for 4th Gen F-Bodies Now available

I was searching around and ran across this transmission. Looks like it will be a bolt in Magnum for the 4th gen F-body. If it's priced like the regular Magnum, which I'm guessing it will, this will be a great replacement for the stock T56. It'll be available this spring.

Google "New Magnum-F 6-speed Transmission" for more info.

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So what exactly is the makeup of this magnum ?

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http://www.ttcautomotive.com/not_am_detalle.php?m=331

I wonder if it is basically a 6060 inside then, and will it have 27 or 31 spline output ?

For 4th Generation GM F-Body Application.
Plymouth, Michigan, January 17, 2014 -- The long-awaited solution for thousands of 4th-generation Camaro & Firebird owners dealing with aging or outclassed manual transmissions has arrived. TREMEC’s new ‘Magnum-F’ six-speed is a direct replacement for Borg-Warner and TREMEC T-56 transmissions in 1993-2002 F-cars*, offering improved shift performance and dramatically increased torque capacity.
[link to high-resolution photo: http://bit.ly/1i42SnV]
In 2009, TREMEC’s new Magnum six-speed line was met with great fanfare from performance enthusiasts seeking a strong, modern-tech manual transmission with the flexibility features necessary to fit early and custom applications. However, the Magnum’s ‘universal’ provisions left some without a proper upgrade for their original T-56 six-speed equipped vehicles—the largest segment being owners of 1993-2002 Chevrolet Camaros and Pontiac Firebirds. That all changes with the release of the new Magnum-F.
Like all other TREMEC Magnum six-speeds, the new Magnum-F benefits from technology derived straight from TREMEC’s involvement with nearly all of Detroit’s OEM rear-wheel-drive performance cars. However, unlike original models, the Magnum-F does not aim to suit various applications and instead employs a unique extension housing tailored specifically to 4th Gen F-bodies. The result is a direct-replacement upgrade superior to the T-56 in every way; including vastly improved shift quality, an astounding 7800 rpm rating, and nearly double the factory T-56 torque rating (700 lb-ft).
Other notable features include a next-generation TREMEC short-throw shifter with TREMEC-exclusive NVH isolator, a T-56-style front adapter plate for use with aluminum or steel bellhousings, multiple gearing options, and F-body torque arm provisions.
Available Spring 2014.
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So what exactly is the makeup of this magnum ?

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http://www.ttcautomotive.com/not_am_detalle.php?m=331

I wonder if it is basically a 6060 inside then, and will it have 27 or 31 spline output ?

For 4th Generation GM F-Body Application.
Plymouth, Michigan, January 17, 2014 -- The long-awaited solution for thousands of 4th-generation Camaro & Firebird owners dealing with aging or outclassed manual transmissions has arrived. TREMEC’s new ‘Magnum-F’ six-speed is a direct replacement for Borg-Warner and TREMEC T-56 transmissions in 1993-2002 F-cars*, offering improved shift performance and dramatically increased torque capacity.
[link to high-resolution photo: http://bit.ly/1i42SnV]
In 2009, TREMEC’s new Magnum six-speed line was met with great fanfare from performance enthusiasts seeking a strong, modern-tech manual transmission with the flexibility features necessary to fit early and custom applications. However, the Magnum’s ‘universal’ provisions left some without a proper upgrade for their original T-56 six-speed equipped vehicles—the largest segment being owners of 1993-2002 Chevrolet Camaros and Pontiac Firebirds. That all changes with the release of the new Magnum-F.
Like all other TREMEC Magnum six-speeds, the new Magnum-F benefits from technology derived straight from TREMEC’s involvement with nearly all of Detroit’s OEM rear-wheel-drive performance cars. However, unlike original models, the Magnum-F does not aim to suit various applications and instead employs a unique extension housing tailored specifically to 4th Gen F-bodies. The result is a direct-replacement upgrade superior to the T-56 in every way; including vastly improved shift quality, an astounding 7800 rpm rating, and nearly double the factory T-56 torque rating (700 lb-ft).
Other notable features include a next-generation TREMEC short-throw shifter with TREMEC-exclusive NVH isolator, a T-56-style front adapter plate for use with aluminum or steel bellhousings, multiple gearing options, and F-body torque arm provisions.
Available Spring 2014.
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That's no 27 spline seal. I'm going to assume it's 31. They went to a lot of detailed effort to get away from making every spline under the sun in the implementation of production for the TR6060 / T56 Magnum and introducing a 27 would be frankly pointless except to those who are dedicated to a stock slip yoke behind a non-stock trans.
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The only odd thing about the picture...is the output shaft looks like it sticks out a good couple of inches.

Which doesnt seem right if they are saying it is a drop in replacement. As neither my stock T56 27 spline or uprated T56 with 31 spline stick out that far.

Both are pretty flush with the rear alloy housing.

So that new Magnum would need a shorter shaft for sure.
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wonder if it's got plugs for a remote cooler/pump?
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Deff interested in details for this! I need a built transmission soon. Also any ideas on pricing?!
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I enquired with one Tremec dealer...they say they had never heard of it so dont expect it any time soon.
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I contacted tremec directly and they pushed the release date till end of summer
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http://blogs.hotrod.com/tremecs-new-...#axzz38tptkYUO

From January..

Wonder if there is any progress on this unit yet ?
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emailed Tremec. Seems at best it will be late this year before it's available.
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i wonder what the price will be on this.

why not just get this ??

http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...camaro-firebird/
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i wonder what the price will be on this.

why not just get this ??

http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...camaro-firebird/
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Anyone care to throw out a ballpark guess on price?
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Anyone care to throw out a ballpark guess on price?
I would guess it will be in line with the Magnum XL, which is designed for Mustangs.

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As above, most Tremec pricing for new units seems to be around $3k.

http://www.ddperformance.com/chevy-t...num-lsx-sb-bb/

Obviously those custom built units will cost more.. Although DD sell theirs for $4k.

http://www.ddperformance.com/custom-...ms-f-body-gto/

I'm sure any differences between the sellers will be small, but prices for the custom 6060's seem to range between the $4-5k range.

Extra costs elsewhere seem to come from the likes of cryo treating and micro polishing etc.

Still not expensive for a strong transmission....but $3k would be nicer.
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TDP just built me one of these. They are slightly longer overall than a stock fbody t56. My 3.5" aluminum driveshaft did not fit, needs to about 3/4-1" shorter but i think its because the output shaft sticks out that much farther like stevie noticed. Also, the reluctor wheel that came in mine is throwing off my speedo so ill need a converter for that (i didnt know this would be a problem beforehand) so hopefully Tremec fixes that.

In the end it cost me a lil over $3k. Well worth it when you look at the cost of building a nice t56 and the differences in parts between the two.
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Was that an outright price, or exchange ?

With the two boxes, I assume the actual casing had to be the same size, it was just the spline sticks out further ?

I recently swapped my cast spicer 31 spline yoke for a Mark Williams billet piece. It's actually shorter and more compact, which pulls the yoke itself out of the trans.

Which would be helpful with these swaps. The cheap cast piece is huge
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Yeah, that's not bad at all for a 6 speed transmission that can handle that much power. Nice to see new/beefier 6 speed transmissions for us guys who love rowing through the gears.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Was that an outright price, or exchange ?

With the two boxes, I assume the actual casing had to be the same size, it was just the spline sticks out further ?

I recently swapped my cast spicer 31 spline yoke for a Mark Williams billet piece. It's actually shorter and more compact, which pulls the yoke itself out of the trans.

Which would be helpful with these swaps. The cheap cast piece is huge
Well mine was weird situation but i guess you would have to call it an exchange. Although through getting this trans, i do know what they ended using for mine cost just over 3k and that was not through an exchange. I have a feeling the markup on these will pretty high

Do you have a part number for that yoke? I havent shortened my driveshaft yet and if i can get the ground i need with the yoke you mentioned i'd rather do that.

That cast yoke is massive


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