Manual Transmission T56 | T5 | MN12 | Clutches | Hydraulics | Shifters
View Poll Results: Spec, YES or NO
YES Spec 3+
43
59.72%
NO
29
40.28%
Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll

NEW Spec 3+

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-20-2006, 08:51 PM
  #1  
TECH Resident
Thread Starter
 
CraZee ZO6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 797
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default NEW Spec 3+

Now I know SPEC HAD issues...

But what do people think of their new spec 3+.
My Buddy John just put one in his 03 cobra. He had the older spec 3. He didnt mind the old one, had little chatter. Did 2 years of drag racing going 10s (Runs 10.30s on eaton/spray). It held up good so he went with the new spec 3+. He absolutely loves it and has NO CHATTER and VERY LIGHT peddle feel. So the question did spec get the new 3+ right? Or should I still be weary...

Anyone running the clutch feedback welcome.
My combo will be ms3 cam package and a 100-150 shot.
Will it hold?

Thanks guys.




-Zee
Old 04-20-2006, 11:39 PM
  #2  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (9)
 
BerryWS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Edmond,OK
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

From what I hear its supposed to be the ****, I am switching from a stage 4 (no problems at all) to this stage 3+ to get the better street manners and will also have some spray on top or 400+rwhp.
I read some where (think Thunder Racings web site) that is have the torque rating of a stage 5 but great street manners!



Stage 3+ - Features a streetable high clamp pressure plate and full face carbon semi-metallic disc. Listed as an upgrade to the stage 3, it offers torque capacities more comparable to the stage 5 but with drivability equal to, and in some cases better than, the stage 3. The high capacity and excellent drivability characteristics of this clutch is a result of years of research and development for this SPEC exclusive disc compound.

this was on there web site here is a link
http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...&vid=3&pcid=72
Old 04-21-2006, 02:50 AM
  #3  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (3)
 
Redneck Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Citrus Heights, CA
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by BerryWS6
From what I hear its supposed to be the ****, I am switching from a stage 4 (no problems at all) to this stage 3+ to get the better street manners and will also have some spray on top or 400+rwhp.
I read some where (think Thunder Racings web site) that is have the torque rating of a stage 5 but great street manners!



Stage 3+ - Features a streetable high clamp pressure plate and full face carbon semi-metallic disc. Listed as an upgrade to the stage 3, it offers torque capacities more comparable to the stage 5 but with drivability equal to, and in some cases better than, the stage 3. The high capacity and excellent drivability characteristics of this clutch is a result of years of research and development for this SPEC exclusive disc compound.

this was on there web site here is a link
http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...&vid=3&pcid=72
The question is did they do anything to fix the exploding problem. The new 3+ sounds good, but I don't want my clutch to come through my front windshield!
Old 04-21-2006, 07:15 AM
  #4  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (9)
 
JakeY2KZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: T.H. Indiana
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

This will be my next clutch when my current spec3 goes out. I've been hearing really good things about it. As for exploding clutch's, IMO it's the matter of installing them correctly. There are tons of guys running spec clutches that have not had one single problem....me being one of them.
Old 04-21-2006, 08:25 AM
  #5  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (9)
 
BerryWS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Edmond,OK
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Thats what I think too, its all in the install, I had mine installed by pros and its bad ***! just to harsh for the street
Old 04-21-2006, 11:32 AM
  #6  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (13)
 
black01_WS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Fort Myers, FL.
Posts: 3,857
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

+1
well I have had mine in for almost 300 miles, so it is kind of hard to tell because I haven't got on it. The clutch engagement is great and no chatter anymore.
Very streetable in my mind.
Old 04-21-2006, 11:37 AM
  #7  
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
CamdLs1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Lake Mary, Fl
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have a spec 3+. I've only driven it 250 miles but there is no chatter, soft pedal, and smooth engagement like my Z06 clutch only quicker. But mine doesn't seem to want to disengage. The engagement point is right off the floor. Spec told me to put another shim in it but I might try an adjustable master first.
Old 04-21-2006, 02:50 PM
  #8  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
mike c.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: mi
Posts: 4,033
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

i have it now. it is a grabby bitch,if i don't get the r's up it will shake the car. it does drive nice,but i only have 600ish mi on it so i have no clue to how long it will hold what i'm going to do to it. the pedal is a little stiffer then my st3. and really no chatter.so far i like it,but it has not proven it self yet.
Old 04-21-2006, 04:46 PM
  #9  
On The Tree
iTrader: (19)
 
rorric's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

doesthe spec 3+ come with a slave and if not what salve is a good one?
Old 04-21-2006, 05:05 PM
  #10  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (10)
 
fletchls1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: OH
Posts: 426
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Have had mine in for several months now but havent put but 26 miles on it...the clutch did not come with a slave. i do recommend that you upgrade it with the clutch though. it can be purchased directly from gm. I put the fidanza flywheel in with the clutch and like what i have felt so far. time will tell how well it is actually built
Old 04-22-2006, 03:02 PM
  #11  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (3)
 
Redneck Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Citrus Heights, CA
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

As for the exploding thing, I've never heard of any of the other clutch's exploding. If it really was an installation problem, then wouldn't we also hear about other brand clutch's exploding? I'd really like to consider this clutch lol, but I can't get over the explosion pics I've seen on here. Now is the 3+ smoother and easier to drive than the stage 3, or is the main benefit more holding power? Seems like I heard somewhere that the 3+ would last longer also.....any truth to that?

Last edited by Redneck Z; 04-22-2006 at 03:08 PM.
Old 04-22-2006, 04:42 PM
  #12  
TECH Resident
Thread Starter
 
CraZee ZO6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 797
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

So it looks like the spec 3+ has good reviews from most.
I am pretty set here but the cartek setup is $629 which includes modifying your stock master. cartek clutch link
Its one or the other.
Hmm....
Old 04-23-2006, 12:25 AM
  #13  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (3)
 
cantdrv65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: TEXASS
Posts: 3,202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Post

I have had the new spec 3+ for about 6 months now...I LOVE this clutch! The 3+ has a solid disk not that puck bullshit....
Old 04-23-2006, 12:26 AM
  #14  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (3)
 
cantdrv65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: TEXASS
Posts: 3,202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Post

Originally Posted by Redneck Z
As for the exploding thing, I've never heard of any of the other clutch's exploding. If it really was an installation problem, then wouldn't we also hear about other brand clutch's exploding? I'd really like to consider this clutch lol, but I can't get over the explosion pics I've seen on here. Now is the 3+ smoother and easier to drive than the stage 3, or is the main benefit more holding power? Seems like I heard somewhere that the 3+ would last longer also.....any truth to that?
If you havent heard of other clutchs exploding you have not been listening...
Old 04-24-2006, 09:27 PM
  #15  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (8)
 
BadAzz96Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Half hour north of ATL
Posts: 548
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

My spec st 3 didnt explode on me but on the disk where the springs are recessed came apart in 3 diffrent spots and the springs came out after 800 miles and were jammed between the pp and flywheel. I have installed 25-30 different f- body clutches with NEVER any issues before. Im on the fence about trying the new one that is supose to replace the one that **** on me but Pete the owner of spec claims the problem is fixed
Old 04-24-2006, 09:54 PM
  #16  
On The Tree
iTrader: (6)
 
TheBowtieboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: DFW
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I've had a Spec 3 for aprox 5000 miles. The only real issue that I've come across is the balance - which might be some of their issue. I had mine balanced and have been pretty satisfied.
......I will probably go with the the 3+ on my rebuild - and have that balance checked as well
Old 04-24-2006, 10:34 PM
  #17  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (22)
 
SPRAYED 01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Northwest side of Chicago
Posts: 3,677
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

I have had the 3+ for 3k and about 6-7 6k launched on slicks with over 500 hp and it works great. pedel feels stock, no chatter and it holds up awsome. I would definetly recomend the clutch.
Old 04-26-2006, 07:56 AM
  #18  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
02SOMWS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wallkill ,NY
Posts: 2,638
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SPRAYED 01
I have had the 3+ for 3k and about 6-7 6k launched on slicks with over 500 hp and it works great. pedel feels stock, no chatter and it holds up awsome. I would definetly recomend the clutch.
thats what I want to hear. I have a spec 3I thats been in my car for 2 years now and it has more track time than street time and have no issues. When it goes I will buy another spec
Old 04-26-2006, 10:45 AM
  #19  
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
BQTransAm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: St. Charles, MO
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

This is the clutch I plan on getting. I had the 3 in my old ws6 and loved it.
Old 04-26-2006, 10:46 AM
  #20  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (49)
 
bww3588's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chillicothe/Lima, Ohio
Posts: 8,139
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts

Default

i dont care if they did fix the exploding problem, its a problem that i can fix with a different clutch and not worry about a spec 'sploding. grant it there is still a chance any clutch can exlpode, i havent heard as many horror stories about any other clutches except spec.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:40 PM.