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Old 04-30-2006, 11:09 AM
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Default WTF! Trans popping out of 3rd and 4th

Well this POS has been rebuilt under war. 4 times. Last year before I put it away for the season it was shifting like butter. NO problems best ever. Since then I did a clutch. At first it was notchy in every gear and I read that that is normal for break in. Well now every other gear is fine but 3rd and 4th. I have had many of the common issues most others have like popping out of 3rd and sticking in 4th but never popping out of 4th. So I don't know what to do. I have no $ for rebuild right now and was hoping I was missing a detail. Please help? I bled the **** out of it vacuum bleed. I did this last year and it was perfect. This time it made no difference. Please advise. I even removed the stops in the shifter thinking that may be it.

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Old 04-30-2006, 12:31 PM
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Typically popping out of gear is an internal trans problem.

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Old 04-30-2006, 12:54 PM
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Yeah man, sounds like your m6 is about to go. Save up and get it rebuilt with hardened internals, or do a swap.
Old 04-30-2006, 09:20 PM
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Well clutch hydraulics are very important to the shift feel& wear & tear on the trans.
Adjustable master? If it is poppin out, it is too late though something is tore up.
They wont take hard driving w/ so-so hydraulics & stock internal trans. Something usually gives.
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Damnit! It is an 02 with stock hydraulics. Clutch grabs mid way and all other gears shift fine. When I put it into 3rd or 4th it feels like it is in and fine, but once I let the clutch out it throws the shifter out. So what is broken? Fork? Keys? Locks? F'n GM garbage. WRENCHER. PM coming at ya.
Old 05-01-2006, 10:21 AM
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Check your paper work to see if they put an iron 3/4 fork in. If not, this was predictable, sorry. It may also be a mis-adjusted stop on your shifter, if you have them.
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Check adjustment on your shifter first. Other than that, mine did the same - it was broken keys. I abused my tranny but I rebuilt with stock keys and it fixed the problem for $9
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Took stops out. SP. How easy is it to replace the keys myself? Do I need to pull everything apart? Do the gears need to come off the shaft and be pressed? I do not have a puller for this.
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sound like your aluminum shift fork is bent.. time for a steel 3-4 shift fork.. and while you're at it, might as well replace the guides with bronze ones..

Give Joe @ T56rebuilds a call.. he did my tranny as well as many others on this board.. very quick, very good prices.
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Alot has to come apart!
6th gear has to come out just to split the case enough to even SEE the 3/4th area.
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I know Joe does good work, but I know of a few local guys and shops that can do it so I do not have to pay shipping and crating. They told me a steel fork went in so ???
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Sounds like a fork to me as well, I have mine all replaced with kevlar internals and viper forks.
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Mine used to do the same exact thing. It was broken keys in the 3/4 syncro. I shift 4th like I am going to rip the shifter out of the car when I am at the track. If you have the bumpstops you shouldn't be bending forks.
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And the winner is.......shift fork pads!

I am replacing the 1-2 and 3-4 pads with bronze and getting billet keys for 3-4. No one seems to make billet 1-2 keys. I hope that means I will never need them. Turns out the trans already has carbon fiber blockers and steel fork so I basically will have a performance rebuilt trans.




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