getting tranny back in
11-11-2006, 07:16 PM
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getting tranny back in sooooo the tranny is about 1.5" from being all the way in, i'm prety sure the input shaft has just gotten inside the pilot bearing b/c when i wiggle the trany it doesnt move. EVERYTHING IS ALIGNED, i can push/wiggle/KICK and it doesnt go any further...
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11-11-2006, 08:56 PM
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I would make sure the clutch disk didnt move when you were taking it out, if it did then it wont pass the input shaft and go into the pilot bearing. If its a LS1 then the release bearing should already be on the input shaft if its a LT1 then the bearing should be on the pressure plate.
11-11-2006, 09:51 PM
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If it wont go in, then everything is NOT aligned as you say it is. Take it back down and re-align your clutch disc with your alignment tool. Get your head up in the trans tunnel so you can stare straight down the center of the disc and pilot bearing and get it as straight as possible, then tighten your PP. Once youve done this, then go back in with the tranny. If it still wont go, reach up and rotate the input shaft...your splines may not be lining up correctly.
11-11-2006, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by joshp14
If it wont go in, then everything is NOT aligned as you say it is. Take it back down and re-align your clutch disc with your alignment tool. Get your head up in the trans tunnel so you can stare straight down the center of the disc and pilot bearing and get it as straight as possible, then tighten your PP.
done this a couple times to keep making sure...theres more then just me working on it.
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Once youve done this, then go back in with the tranny. If it still wont go, reach up and rotate the input shaft...your splines may not be lining up correctly.
splines are lined up as well. it goes partially in, then stops. when i lift and wiggle the tranny the input shaft stays still (locked with the inner teeth), when i turn the crank shaft bolt, the input shaft spins with it....it's partially in and everything inside IS lined up. the only thing i can think is the back of the tranny isnt up high enough and isn't going straight in beyond where it is....in which the back cant go higher b/c its a 1/2" or so under the tunnel still....
11-11-2006, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by joshp14
Alignment dowels? Do they have anything like oxidation or corossion on them?
those are about an inch away from going in, and no; no corrosion on them
with the bolts in the holes, its about a 1/4-1/2" away from being able to thread.
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11-12-2006, 12:58 AM
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I feel your pain. I'm having the exact same problem. Two of my friends and I spent 3 hours Weds. night trying to get that $&@%! tranny in. Did the same trouble shooting as mentioned above with no luck. Going to give it a go again Sunday afternoon. If anyone has any other suggestions, I am sure we both would appreciate it.
SIK02SS Let me know if you have any luck with yours, I'll do the same.
SIK02SS Let me know if you have any luck with yours, I'll do the same.
11-12-2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryan28
another tip would be to go ahead and make sure your bleeder valve screw is open on the slave cylinder
i might try that....wont have time til next weekend though to get back under
11-12-2006, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LightEmUpLs1
stick the drive shaft in and turn it this will spin the input shaft and make it easier trust me
i was turning the crank, which was turning the input shaft, the splines are lined up
11-12-2006, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dave_ws6_n2o
I feel your pain. I'm having the exact same problem. Two of my friends and I spent 3 hours Weds. night trying to get that $&@%! tranny in. Did the same trouble shooting as mentioned above with no luck. Going to give it a go again Sunday afternoon. If anyone has any other suggestions, I am sure we both would appreciate it.
SIK02SS Let me know if you have any luck with yours, I'll do the same.
SIK02SS Let me know if you have any luck with yours, I'll do the same.
pm me if you get it further in
11-13-2006, 10:59 PM
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This is what we did. Used some slightly longer bolts to put a tad of pressure on the tranny once we made sure that we had the clutch aligned with the input shaft, place a bottle jack on the rear of the tranny and popped into the pilot bearing and then just tightened it on up. Crude, but on the ground, getting it perfectly lined up is a pain!!
11-13-2006, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by quik 99SS
This is what we did. Used some slightly longer bolts to put a tad of pressure on the tranny once we made sure that we had the clutch aligned with the input shaft, place a bottle jack on the rear of the tranny and popped into the pilot bearing and then just tightened it on up. Crude, but on the ground, getting it perfectly lined up is a pain!!
thanks! we were thinking about that, but were afraid of stripping the threads.
a bottle jack?
11-14-2006, 08:58 AM
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It sounds like you're lined up. Save yourself from anymore time and aggrevation and go buy longer bolts. I was in the same situation and spent at least 3 hrs trying to figure out if it was lined up and it was. The problem is the spring on the slave not being depressed fully and is resting on the pp fins. Just take your time and tighten very slowly. It will gradually go in all the way.
11-16-2006, 12:57 AM
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Finally got it in!!! We used the longer bolt method. Just went to home depot and picked up a couple that were a little longer. The stock size is 10mm X 40mm we used 10mm x 50mm. I believe they are a 1.5 thread pitch. (Call your local Pontiac dealer thats who gave me the stock size).We used three bolts. Just put them in a triangular hole pattern, and turned each one a little at a time. It just popped right in after that. Then we put the others in, pulled the longer ones out and replaced them.
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