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Old 08-06-2008, 05:38 PM
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I'm about to do a LS7 clutch install. I have the clutch, flywheel, pilot bushing, and slave cylinder. Am I forgetting anything?
Old 08-06-2008, 05:54 PM
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i used all new arp bolts just for safety but i plan on a lot of heavy clutch dumps to put my spec 3 and billet flywheel to the test
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What about a throwout bearing, or is that part of the slave cylinder.
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The throw out bearing is part of the slave cylinder. When I did mine, I replaced the rear main seal and rear main seal housing gasket, I dont know how many miles are on your car but I had 140K on mine when I did it and those seals were leaking so I did it while I had the tranny out since you have to pull the trans to do the rear main. I got the gaskets from my local dealer, about 20 for the rear main and 30 for the housing gasket. I had to go back and get another rear main because when I opened it up the lip was cracked from being dry, probably sat on the shelf for a long time, so I would check it before you buy it if you end up replacing it.
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Maybe just the flywheel bolts. Also i used the "grease gun" method to remove the old pilot. It took less than a minute.
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Originally Posted by tacklebox
Maybe just the flywheel bolts. Also i used the "grease gun" method to remove the old pilot. It took less than a minute.
How exactly does the grease gun method work?
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Harbor Freight sells a blind hole extractor kit, its a small sized slide hammer with some attachments in a nice small case, works great and only cost about 30 bucks, ive used it on my pilot bearing and the 2 others iv done for people in the past month, heres a link. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95987
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Originally Posted by kirby's hawk
How exactly does the grease gun method work?
Stick a grease gun into the hole in the pilot bushing and pump it till the small area behind it completely fills up with grease. It maybe takes an ounce of grease to fill it up. Then take a metal rod or bolt that is just slightly smaller in diameter than the hole in the pilot, slide it into the hole and give it a couple whacks with a hammer. This will effectively displace the grease so it pushes on the backside of the bushing and it will start to come out. Then if needed, pump in a little more grease to fill it back up and repeat the process.
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Originally Posted by tacklebox
Stick a grease gun into the hole in the pilot bushing and pump it till the small area behind it completely fills up with grease. It maybe takes an ounce of grease to fill it up. Then take a metal rod or bolt that is just slightly smaller in diameter than the hole in the pilot, slide it into the hole and give it a couple whacks with a hammer. This will effectively displace the grease so it pushes on the backside of the bushing and it will start to come out. Then if needed, pump in a little more grease to fill it back up and repeat the process.
What if you push that freeze plug thats right behind the pilot bearing all the way in? That would suck.
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Originally Posted by Mart00SS
What if you push that freeze plug thats right behind the pilot bearing all the way in? That would suck.
Yeah that would suck. I think i will just rent the tool from autozone.
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Originally Posted by kirby's hawk
Yeah that would suck. I think i will just rent the tool from autozone.
This is the best choice. Also, remember to have the pressure plate to flywheel assembly balanced; even if it takes a week to get it done.
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Originally Posted by Mart00SS
What if you push that freeze plug thats right behind the pilot bearing all the way in? That would suck.
Freeze plug behind the pilot bearing????????????
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Originally Posted by 84ls1_transam
Freeze plug behind the pilot bearing????????????
If you know what a freeze plug is, and you pull your old pilot bearing you will see that there is one in that end of the crank, right behind the pilot bearing. Very strange because I was not familar with this until I did my clutch swap. Old school V8's like the 400 pontiac block I have or an old 350 do not have this. Pretty strange.
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+2 on getting it balanced as an assembly. I did, it took a week, cost $85 and was out 18 grams. Just one less thing to worry about really.
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Originally Posted by Mart00SS
If you know what a freeze plug is, and you pull your old pilot bearing you will see that there is one in that end of the crank, right behind the pilot bearing. Very strange because I was not familar with this until I did my clutch swap. Old school V8's like the 400 pontiac block I have or an old 350 do not have this. Pretty strange.
I've never heard of such thing. And yes I know what a freeze plug is.But what is the point of it in the crank?
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Originally Posted by 84ls1_transam
I've never heard of such thing. And yes I know what a freeze plug is.But what is the point of it in the crank?
I know I thought it was strange when I saw it, and I have no idea why it is there but it is.
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yea dont use the grease gun/wet bread/w/e else you can think of to force it out on an lsx. use a blind hole puller it will work the best, i promise.
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I finished the install on monday. I just used the pilot bearing puller from autozone. The was actually to big to fit in the bearing but after a little fanagling and a few wacks with a hammer i was able to get it in far enough to pull it out. everything else in and it works great.
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Good deal!



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