68 Camaro buying experience - everyone should view video
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68 Camaro buying experience - everyone should view video Last month my 02 WS6 was in the midst of being sold. I had a great looking 67 Camaro lined up from a dealer in PA. Of course, the deal feel through on my current car and the 67 I was looking at sold. Pretty bummed about it cause I was ready to drive there and check the car out.
Yesterday a good friend of mine found a video on YouTube that a guy put up who lost his arsh buying a car from the dealership I was going to go through. I figured I'd pass this along and recommend others to view this video. It's messed up how bad the dealership represented this car.
If the link doesn't work, search on "Camaro 68 buying experience" on YouTube. I remember seeing this car on the dealer's site when I was looking at the 67. It looked like a great car from all the pics the dealer posted. Believe the dealer was asking around 25K for the car in the video.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gihRChDAeiw
Yesterday a good friend of mine found a video on YouTube that a guy put up who lost his arsh buying a car from the dealership I was going to go through. I figured I'd pass this along and recommend others to view this video. It's messed up how bad the dealership represented this car.
If the link doesn't work, search on "Camaro 68 buying experience" on YouTube. I remember seeing this car on the dealer's site when I was looking at the 67. It looked like a great car from all the pics the dealer posted. Believe the dealer was asking around 25K for the car in the video.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gihRChDAeiw
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02-23-2011, 11:18 AM
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Last month my 02 WS6 was in the midst of being sold. I had a great looking 67 Camaro lined up from a dealer in PA. Of course, the deal feel through on my current car and the 67 I was looking at sold. Pretty bummed about it cause I was ready to drive there and check the car out.
Yesterday a good friend of mine found a video on YouTube that a guy put up who lost his arsh buying a car from the dealership I was going to go through. I figured I'd pass this along and recommend others to view this video. It's messed up how bad the dealership represented this car.
If the link doesn't work, search on "Camaro 68 buying experience" on YouTube. I remember seeing this car on the dealer's site when I was looking at the 67. It looked like a great car from all the pics the dealer posted. Believe the dealer was asking around 25K for the car in the video.
Yesterday a good friend of mine found a video on YouTube that a guy put up who lost his arsh buying a car from the dealership I was going to go through. I figured I'd pass this along and recommend others to view this video. It's messed up how bad the dealership represented this car.
If the link doesn't work, search on "Camaro 68 buying experience" on YouTube. I remember seeing this car on the dealer's site when I was looking at the 67. It looked like a great car from all the pics the dealer posted. Believe the dealer was asking around 25K for the car in the video.
We didn't want him to keep the car if he wasn't happy with it. We would have
rather bought the car back and sent it out to be repaired at our expense.
From the time he first contacted us and sent us pix of the car, he already
had the car completely dismantled. He clearly chose to dismantle the car and
repair it himself.
How many classic car dealers would offer to buy a car back when we don't
have to do so.
If I bought a car sight unseen and it showed up, I would thoroughly look it
over before I would start dismantling it.
If I wasn't satisfied with what I had seen, I would request to return it
immediately. I would expect to pay for shipping if I didn't go see the car
or have it inspected.
We strongly encourage customers to come and see the car or have it
inspected.
In this case he chose not to do so and is blaming us for misrepresenting the
car. As he said himself in the video these things would not have been found
in a normal inspection. Which is what we do when we buy them. We are not a
service center, we're a showroom only dealer with a detail dept. Now that
you've heard from both sides, use your best judgment.
Thank You.
02-23-2011, 11:50 AM
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Rusted frame rails, inner fenders (sections cut out), trunk, glued in floor pans, rotted bushings (control arms, sub-frame), broke leaf spring, bad wheel bearings, ball joints, etc would have been caught in a "normal" inspection. Sounds like the car is completely unsafe to drive. The front window almost popped out!
I'm rather sharing an example to look a little closer and what is being bought.
I'm rather sharing an example to look a little closer and what is being bought.
02-23-2011, 12:17 PM
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Those are most certainly things that a normal inspection would have shown. Heck, the guys at wal-mart will tell you things like that. The car was misrepresented in an obvious attempt to pawn it off on some poor sap who was willing to give a dealer the benefit of the doubt and assume they were honest folk.
I can't think of any excuse for that car to have been on the lot in such pitiful condition. It's a rust bucket that sat in some one's front yard for eons with a, most likely, cheap paint job to pass it off.
If management really didn't catch this, I certainly hope a "tech" got an ear full over this.
And I'm not so sure the new owner disassembled the car, it sounds like the car did that on it's own on the way home.
I can't think of any excuse for that car to have been on the lot in such pitiful condition. It's a rust bucket that sat in some one's front yard for eons with a, most likely, cheap paint job to pass it off.
If management really didn't catch this, I certainly hope a "tech" got an ear full over this.
And I'm not so sure the new owner disassembled the car, it sounds like the car did that on it's own on the way home.
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We did offer to buy the car back from the guy but he demanded $4000 instead.
We didn't want him to keep the car if he wasn't happy with it. We would have
rather bought the car back and sent it out to be repaired at our expense.
From the time he first contacted us and sent us pix of the car, he already
had the car completely dismantled. He clearly chose to dismantle the car and
repair it himself.
How many classic car dealers would offer to buy a car back when we don't
have to do so.
If I bought a car sight unseen and it showed up, I would thoroughly look it
over before I would start dismantling it.
If I wasn't satisfied with what I had seen, I would request to return it
immediately. I would expect to pay for shipping if I didn't go see the car
or have it inspected.
We strongly encourage customers to come and see the car or have it
inspected.
In this case he chose not to do so and is blaming us for misrepresenting the
car. As he said himself in the video these things would not have been found
in a normal inspection. Which is what we do when we buy them. We are not a
service center, we're a showroom only dealer with a detail dept. Now that
you've heard from both sides, use your best judgment.
Thank You.
We didn't want him to keep the car if he wasn't happy with it. We would have
rather bought the car back and sent it out to be repaired at our expense.
From the time he first contacted us and sent us pix of the car, he already
had the car completely dismantled. He clearly chose to dismantle the car and
repair it himself.
How many classic car dealers would offer to buy a car back when we don't
have to do so.
If I bought a car sight unseen and it showed up, I would thoroughly look it
over before I would start dismantling it.
If I wasn't satisfied with what I had seen, I would request to return it
immediately. I would expect to pay for shipping if I didn't go see the car
or have it inspected.
We strongly encourage customers to come and see the car or have it
inspected.
In this case he chose not to do so and is blaming us for misrepresenting the
car. As he said himself in the video these things would not have been found
in a normal inspection. Which is what we do when we buy them. We are not a
service center, we're a showroom only dealer with a detail dept. Now that
you've heard from both sides, use your best judgment.
Thank You.
really?????
bite the bullet & get it over with it all ready......
this POST is full of LOSE......
and change your name to........moneylover1
02-23-2011, 02:11 PM
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WOW!!!
That's some BS.
I don't care what anybody says, how can you miss something so obvious? I mean honestly, 1 drive down the street and those noises would've alerted you of a problem. Anybody in there right mind would've wondered what the noise was. If you didn't test drive the vehicle, or Inspect it, How can you claim it has NO RUST and is in GREAT Shape??? As for the front Radiator Core Support being rotted away, as soon as you opened the hood and checked the fluids (primarily the coolant) you should've been able to see that. Hell we can all see that in the video alone.
I will state my oppinion.... I say you purposely sold a car in poor shape to get out from underneath it. And by doing so over the internet and by not forewarning the potential new owner of obvious problems, then you DID infact mis-represent the car. I would really hate to see the kind of car business you run there if in fact you do not Carefully Inspect, Test Drive, and fore-warn customers of known issues. Most likely you will not be in business very long if these types of transactions continue in the Future.
Just a little tip... It takes far more (devotion especially) to make a Company Prosper than it does to see 1 fail!
Word of Mouth and Advertising are among the 2 biggest things that help a company reach success. However Shady Dealings, and BAD Word of Mouth can make 1 fail in almost no time at all.
I personally would like to see this guy re-emberssed for some of the $ he spent on a car in such poor condition. Make it right, and I bet your company would not get so much hassling in the near future. I personally would never buy from your company based off that testimonial right there. But that's just me.
Good Day!
That's some BS.
I don't care what anybody says, how can you miss something so obvious? I mean honestly, 1 drive down the street and those noises would've alerted you of a problem. Anybody in there right mind would've wondered what the noise was. If you didn't test drive the vehicle, or Inspect it, How can you claim it has NO RUST and is in GREAT Shape??? As for the front Radiator Core Support being rotted away, as soon as you opened the hood and checked the fluids (primarily the coolant) you should've been able to see that. Hell we can all see that in the video alone.
I will state my oppinion.... I say you purposely sold a car in poor shape to get out from underneath it. And by doing so over the internet and by not forewarning the potential new owner of obvious problems, then you DID infact mis-represent the car. I would really hate to see the kind of car business you run there if in fact you do not Carefully Inspect, Test Drive, and fore-warn customers of known issues. Most likely you will not be in business very long if these types of transactions continue in the Future.
Just a little tip... It takes far more (devotion especially) to make a Company Prosper than it does to see 1 fail!
Word of Mouth and Advertising are among the 2 biggest things that help a company reach success. However Shady Dealings, and BAD Word of Mouth can make 1 fail in almost no time at all.
I personally would like to see this guy re-emberssed for some of the $ he spent on a car in such poor condition. Make it right, and I bet your company would not get so much hassling in the near future. I personally would never buy from your company based off that testimonial right there. But that's just me.
Good Day!
02-23-2011, 02:53 PM
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Buying any car without seeing it is a huge risk, moreso with an old car. But you would expect a dealer to be experienced with his area of business (old cars) and have done a better basic inspection, thus resulting in a more accurate description of the car.
I don't think the dealer "missed" any of that. I think they just didn't disclose it.
I don't think the dealer "missed" any of that. I think they just didn't disclose it.
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02-23-2011, 02:59 PM
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We did offer to buy the car back from the guy but he demanded $4000 instead.
We didn't want him to keep the car if he wasn't happy with it. We would have
rather bought the car back and sent it out to be repaired at our expense.
From the time he first contacted us and sent us pix of the car, he already
had the car completely dismantled. He clearly chose to dismantle the car and
repair it himself.
How many classic car dealers would offer to buy a car back when we don't
have to do so.
If I bought a car sight unseen and it showed up, I would thoroughly look it
over before I would start dismantling it.
If I wasn't satisfied with what I had seen, I would request to return it
immediately. I would expect to pay for shipping if I didn't go see the car
or have it inspected.
We strongly encourage customers to come and see the car or have it
inspected.
In this case he chose not to do so and is blaming us for misrepresenting the
car. As he said himself in the video these things would not have been found
in a normal inspection. Which is what we do when we buy them. We are not a
service center, we're a showroom only dealer with a detail dept. Now that
you've heard from both sides, use your best judgment.
Thank You.
We didn't want him to keep the car if he wasn't happy with it. We would have
rather bought the car back and sent it out to be repaired at our expense.
From the time he first contacted us and sent us pix of the car, he already
had the car completely dismantled. He clearly chose to dismantle the car and
repair it himself.
How many classic car dealers would offer to buy a car back when we don't
have to do so.
If I bought a car sight unseen and it showed up, I would thoroughly look it
over before I would start dismantling it.
If I wasn't satisfied with what I had seen, I would request to return it
immediately. I would expect to pay for shipping if I didn't go see the car
or have it inspected.
We strongly encourage customers to come and see the car or have it
inspected.
In this case he chose not to do so and is blaming us for misrepresenting the
car. As he said himself in the video these things would not have been found
in a normal inspection. Which is what we do when we buy them. We are not a
service center, we're a showroom only dealer with a detail dept. Now that
you've heard from both sides, use your best judgment.
Thank You.
02-23-2011, 05:26 PM
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They sold the guy a freshly coated lemon. Then they had the nerve to say that they would have brought the car back and repaired it at their expense... BS! They should've properly repaired the car before they sold that sack of poo.
02-24-2011, 06:41 PM
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this car was bougth by an icelander, and shipped over there and taxed and registered,
this car must have bin over 40k arrived,
sending the car back would always be a long and boring process, the car has bin taxed and registered in another country thousands of miles away,
the worst thing is tat this car is made like this by someone knowing exatly what he got in his hands, this car is a rustbucked faked to look realy niced,
and there is stuff like the rear subframe's that have bin fake'd w/ bondo and paint to look allrigth,
02-26-2011, 09:37 AM
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We did offer to buy the car back from the guy but he demanded $4000 instead.
We didn't want him to keep the car if he wasn't happy with it. We would have
rather bought the car back and sent it out to be repaired at our expense.
From the time he first contacted us and sent us pix of the car, he already
had the car completely dismantled. He clearly chose to dismantle the car and
repair it himself.
How many classic car dealers would offer to buy a car back when we don't
have to do so.
If I bought a car sight unseen and it showed up, I would thoroughly look it
over before I would start dismantling it.
If I wasn't satisfied with what I had seen, I would request to return it
immediately. I would expect to pay for shipping if I didn't go see the car
or have it inspected.
We strongly encourage customers to come and see the car or have it
inspected.
In this case he chose not to do so and is blaming us for misrepresenting the
car. As he said himself in the video these things would not have been found
in a normal inspection. Which is what we do when we buy them. We are not a
service center, we're a showroom only dealer with a detail dept. Now that
you've heard from both sides, use your best judgment.
Thank You.
We didn't want him to keep the car if he wasn't happy with it. We would have
rather bought the car back and sent it out to be repaired at our expense.
From the time he first contacted us and sent us pix of the car, he already
had the car completely dismantled. He clearly chose to dismantle the car and
repair it himself.
How many classic car dealers would offer to buy a car back when we don't
have to do so.
If I bought a car sight unseen and it showed up, I would thoroughly look it
over before I would start dismantling it.
If I wasn't satisfied with what I had seen, I would request to return it
immediately. I would expect to pay for shipping if I didn't go see the car
or have it inspected.
We strongly encourage customers to come and see the car or have it
inspected.
In this case he chose not to do so and is blaming us for misrepresenting the
car. As he said himself in the video these things would not have been found
in a normal inspection. Which is what we do when we buy them. We are not a
service center, we're a showroom only dealer with a detail dept. Now that
you've heard from both sides, use your best judgment.
Thank You.
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I think the bushings are the least of that car's problems. 
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Good news! Cause of the YouTube vid, this post, and others....the dealership has had a change of heart and made it good with the Icelander. He may even remove the video.
One of my friends emailed the Icelander with this post and some that he created. Not sure what the "deal" was though.
Email reply from Icelander: "I just want to say thank you.
It has been amazing to see and feel the compassion from you guy´s regarding my foolish mistake when buying a 42 year old classic. Without you I would not have gotten so far and Legends would not have changed their minds."
One of my friends emailed the Icelander with this post and some that he created. Not sure what the "deal" was though.
Email reply from Icelander: "I just want to say thank you.
It has been amazing to see and feel the compassion from you guy´s regarding my foolish mistake when buying a 42 year old classic. Without you I would not have gotten so far and Legends would not have changed their minds."
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This IS good news. 
11-27-2015, 04:32 AM
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Hey fellow members, Happy Thanksgiving.
Question: I just ran across this old thread doing some research. Is there anyone here that remembers this particular Camaro that would recognize a picture of it? PLMK.
Question: I just ran across this old thread doing some research. Is there anyone here that remembers this particular Camaro that would recognize a picture of it? PLMK.
