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Old 03-04-2004, 11:22 PM   #1
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Default What do you guys think of Lingenfelter?

Doing my homework on a future SS purchase and came upon Lingerfelter. I've heard of him before, mostly for vettes, but he offers packages for LS1's as well.

http://www.lingenfelter.com/packagesfls1.asp

Has anyone on this board had their LS1 work on their?

I was thinking of this package: http://www.lingenfelter.com/pac350cidls1f.asp

They seem very reasonable. Get a used SS (2000) for 16K, have them do the work for another 7K and have a smokin' vette killer, and basically a new engine for 23K.

Something on the order of this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6161

Am I an idiot for considering this as an option? Love to hear some feedback.

Thanks,

Alex

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They do badass work, but for the money you spend on that "upgrade" you could go to one of the sponsers and had something that makes allot more HP for the same amount. For 7k bucks you could have a badass heads cam setup that makes 430-460Rear wheel horsepower, that lingenfelter combo probably makes like 380 rear wheel horsepower.
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Old 03-04-2004, 11:36 PM   #3
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Hmm...overpriced then eh? I'm not a mechanic so I'd have to pay the labor regardless. But it sounds like Lingenfelter is overpriced.

Any other options if I'm looking for a 'package' for a big HP upgrade on existing motor? Recommendations?

I found this, looks reasonable. http://www.ls1speed.com/engines.cfm Well at least I know now what's a fair price.

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Go with a turbo kit. $3500,injectors $400, cat back exhaust $500, tune $500. And it isn't hard to install at all! mostly just bolts. You don't realy need a exhaust and I would throw so gauges in there to.

So $5000+/- and 320hp too 700hp. All depends on the way you set it up.
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Go with a turbo kit. $3500,injectors $400, cat back exhaust $500, tune $500. And it isn't hard to install at all! mostly just bolts. You don't realy need a exhaust and I would throw so gauges in there to.

So $5000+/- and 320hp too 700hp. All depends on the way you set it up.

wtf are you talking about?
$3500 for a turbo?
what happened to $5k super and $6k turbo?
please tell me the details.
meanwhile im stopping by the fi section.
i cant believe this.
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the advantages i've heard about lingenfelter is not so much just the hp numbers but the craftmanship that goes into the install. i've heard from one guy that sent his car there say that when we got it back, that the car ran/operated smoother than his wife's bmw. and you know american cars aren't built or modified with incredible engine running smoothness in mind.

so, with lingenfelter, its not just about hp. it's how incredibly well that hp is packaged into your car so that its more powerful but runs smoother than it did stock.

that's the feeling i get anyways....
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RIP John Lingenfelter, very tragic.
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Go with a turbo kit. $3500,injectors $400, cat back exhaust $500, tune $500. And it isn't hard to install at all! mostly just bolts. You don't realy need a exhaust and I would throw so gauges in there to.

So $5000+/- and 320hp too 700hp. All depends on the way you set it up.
I hate to break it to you man but it's not that easy to get 700hp, it's a lot of work and money.
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I hate to break it to you man but it's not that easy to get 700hp, it's a lot of work and money.
For real, and turbo kits for ls1's do NOT $3500, more like $6500...not installed. If you have the means, I would go with the LPE package, it sounds sweet and I believe they do great work. It is true that you could get a lot more than 380rwhp with $7k, but then you couldn't say that you have a Lingenfelter Package!
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Awesome, thanks guys. My buget for an updgrade / install would be about 7K, and I'd really like to be able to just drop the car off, and have them do it all ya know?

Good input all around and I'll keep doing the research.

Thanks again,

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Go with a turbo kit. $3500,injectors $400, cat back exhaust $500, tune $500. And it isn't hard to install at all! mostly just bolts. You don't realy need a exhaust and I would throw so gauges in there to.

So $5000+/- and 320hp too 700hp. All depends on the way you set it up.
hook me up with a link to a 3500 turbo kit.

Im piecing together a used vortech kit, that will end up costing me around 2500+ fuel system.

I would gladly pay another G for a turbo

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The only turbo kit I know of that is 3500 is the STS kit, which in my opinion isn't worth you. You could do a turbo setup if you knew what you were doing and make your own, but that wouldn't work in alex's case. 7K can deffinitely pay for a turbo kit though, id rather have a turbo on my car then h/c anyday, just because I love the thought of a boosted LS1, someday maybe. Either way, good luck with your decisions.
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for that price, you could drop your car off at mti and get a heads cam setup that will put up much higher numbers. and you're not getting a new motor... you're getting a new top end and keeping your old short block minus the new cam.
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But for the price of 7K, wouldn't a new motor be better / Preferrable. Again I'm a newb, so sorry if it's a dumb question. I'd be buying a used SS, so a new motor pushing 400 - 500 HP for around 7 - 8K installed, seems atractive to me.

Or is it better to keep the stock motor and just mod it for that amount?

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But for the price of 7K, wouldn't a new motor be better / Preferrable. Again I'm a newb, so sorry if it's a dumb question. I'd be buying a used SS, so a new motor pushing 400 - 500 HP for around 7 - 8K installed, seems atractive to me.

Or is it better to keep the stock motor and just mod it for that amount?

Thanks,

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I think he's saying you wouldn't be getting an all new motor from lingenfelter.
Have you ever driven a car with 450hp?
This is what I would do:
1. get your car
2. do intake lid ($100 do that yourself, its real easy) and tires if you need it.
3. Find a performance shop near you that works on LS1's, ask on here, drive a ways to it if you have to, its worth it.
4. Get an exhaust ($600), headers ($1100), SFC's ($200) and LCA's ($100) and have all that put on.
5. Drive it for a bit and start thinking about cams.
6. get a cam ($400), plugs, wires, pulley ($200), ported TB ($150) and have that put on and get it tuned.
All that will cost you <$4500 and you will have 425 HP. If that's not enough for you, ported heads are next.
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Ahh, yes, I was aware of that. New motor is better then afterall?
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Ok, thanks Jullian. And no, I haven't driven a car with 400+ HP on it. My stang was about 300 (it was a 5.0) and I had some mods on it.

So You're right, I shouldn't bite off more than I can chew.

Thanks again,

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BEST ADVICE OF THE THREAD:

Stick around this forum a month or so, you'll have so many ideas for that $7000 you won't know what to do.
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or for that much money, start a new shortblock and start building it up! pre it for a turbo or S/C, or GIGGLE GAS. then you can drop that in and if it ever blows, you still have your stock ls1 to put in. you have to prepare.

if not i advise you to go look at our sponsors. stop by at ls1motorsports (QMP).

nitrous is cheap power. if you want that 700 rwhp everday, you are looking more towards 10,000 bucks on something of that sort. but in that money, you are looking at a bad *** tune and pretty reliable kit!

good luck on your spending search for more power.

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Lingenfelter is sweet but Julian rather hit it on the head.
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