FREE MODS ON a 98 SS
02-10-2012, 09:07 PM
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FREE MODS ON a 98 SS Should I do them? Like the one were you remove the plastic in front of the condenser for added ram air? Only thing done to the car is 3.23s and SLP lid with a drop in k and n.
02-10-2012, 09:43 PM
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You can't loose something you never had. the "ram air" package on these cars do nothing for performance, so its basically an appearance package. I think it was tested and the only time it would actually matter is at over 100+ MPH, and even then it was minimal differences
02-10-2012, 09:45 PM
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You can't loose something you never had. the "ram air" package on these cars do nothing for performance, so its basically an appearance package. I think it was tested and the only time it would actually matter is at over 100+ MPH, and even then it was minimal differences
02-10-2012, 09:59 PM
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But in a sense I don't notice the correlation between "RAM AIR = "15 Engine Horse" seems a bit unrealistic really
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02-10-2012, 10:35 PM
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But to answer your question it doesn't really have 15 HP more then a standard LS1 car. ALL LS1 cars put around 300 to the ground (~350 at engine), and numerous dyno and track results have proven this time and time again. Just like how the LS1 corvettes are rated at 350, they put the same power out as a LS1 f body (which have been proven also through dyno tests).
And as far as an intake system a lid or K&N are both good, and both add around the same HP. It all comes down to preference, but if you have 1 its stupid to buy the other
02-10-2012, 10:37 PM
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02-10-2012, 11:25 PM
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SSs that were optioned with the dual/dual catback and Blackwing lid did have more horsepower than a base SS or Z28, as these parts were worth similar gains as any aftermarket lid or catback.
All LS1s for a given model year have the same heads, cam and intake (the only exception being the C5s - '98-'00 C5s had a slightly different cam than '98-'00 F-bodies with LS1s, and they had LS1 intakes without an EGR system). Starting in 2001, every LS1 (C5 or F-body) used the same heads, cam, and LS6 intake.
The LS6 intake was used on all LS1 engines starting in 2001, regardless of platform or trim level. LS6 heads and cam were never used in any LS1 engine, regardless of trim level.
No matter if your car is a Z28 or a Firehawk or anything inbetween, you have the same internal engine parts as every other LS1 used in any trim level or platform for that same model year (unless you are comparing a '98-'00 F-body with a C5 of those same years, for reasons I explained above).
Hope that clears up all the confusion in this thread.
02-11-2012, 01:10 AM
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Your car would have had 3.23s stock. GU5 (3.23s) was a required option with any WU8 (SS) car that also had MX0/M30 (Auto trans, 4L60E).
Tune is the same. Horsepower is the same between a 305-310 "rated" Z28 and a 320-325 "rated" SS. The only difference is the muffler outlets and tail pipes (2.5" on the SS, 2.25" on the Z28 - might be worth 1-2hp at most).
SSs that were optioned with the dual/dual catback and Blackwing lid did have more horsepower than a base SS or Z28, as these parts were worth similar gains as any aftermarket lid or catback.
All LS1s for a given model year have the same heads, cam and intake (the only exception being the C5s - '98-'00 C5s had a slightly different cam than '98-'00 F-bodies with LS1s, and they had LS1 intakes without an EGR system). Starting in 2001, every LS1 (C5 or F-body) used the same heads, cam, and LS6 intake.
No Blackwing was ever offered for the WS6 cars. You're probably thinking of the Firehawks. WS6s were an ASC production, and the Blackwings were an SLP option on SLP built cars only (SS and Firehawk).
The LS6 intake was used on all LS1 engines starting in 2001, regardless of platform or trim level. LS6 heads and cam were never used in any LS1 engine, regardless of trim level.
No matter if your car is a Z28 or a Firehawk or anything inbetween, you have the same internal engine parts as every other LS1 used in any trim level or platform for that same model year (unless you are comparing a '98-'00 F-body with a C5 of those same years, for reasons I explained above).
Hope that clears up all the confusion in this thread.
Tune is the same. Horsepower is the same between a 305-310 "rated" Z28 and a 320-325 "rated" SS. The only difference is the muffler outlets and tail pipes (2.5" on the SS, 2.25" on the Z28 - might be worth 1-2hp at most).
SSs that were optioned with the dual/dual catback and Blackwing lid did have more horsepower than a base SS or Z28, as these parts were worth similar gains as any aftermarket lid or catback.
All LS1s for a given model year have the same heads, cam and intake (the only exception being the C5s - '98-'00 C5s had a slightly different cam than '98-'00 F-bodies with LS1s, and they had LS1 intakes without an EGR system). Starting in 2001, every LS1 (C5 or F-body) used the same heads, cam, and LS6 intake.
No Blackwing was ever offered for the WS6 cars. You're probably thinking of the Firehawks. WS6s were an ASC production, and the Blackwings were an SLP option on SLP built cars only (SS and Firehawk).
The LS6 intake was used on all LS1 engines starting in 2001, regardless of platform or trim level. LS6 heads and cam were never used in any LS1 engine, regardless of trim level.
No matter if your car is a Z28 or a Firehawk or anything inbetween, you have the same internal engine parts as every other LS1 used in any trim level or platform for that same model year (unless you are comparing a '98-'00 F-body with a C5 of those same years, for reasons I explained above).
Hope that clears up all the confusion in this thread.
02-11-2012, 01:24 AM
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Thank you. I'll add some more info for the record....
'98 cars would have had 806 heads stock. What makes these heads different (externally) from the other years is the perimeter bolt valve covers and individually mounted ignition coil packs (as opposed to the coil rail used on the '99+ engines).
'99-'00 would have had 853 heads stock. These are internally the same as 806 heads, but externally they use a different valve cover with center bolts (and the coil rail I mentioned above). Some very late '00 built cars received 241 heads.
'01-'02 would have had 241 heads stock. These are externally the same as the 853 heads (using the same center bolt valve covers and coil rails), but internally their casting process was improved, resulting in what most agree to be slightly better flow in stock form than 806 or 853 heads. Once ported/polished, 806/853/241 heads all offer the same flow and power potential.
I'll add some more info for the record....'99-'00 would have had 853 heads stock. These are internally the same as 806 heads, but externally they use a different valve cover with center bolts (and the coil rail I mentioned above). Some very late '00 built cars received 241 heads.
'01-'02 would have had 241 heads stock. These are externally the same as the 853 heads (using the same center bolt valve covers and coil rails), but internally their casting process was improved, resulting in what most agree to be slightly better flow in stock form than 806 or 853 heads. Once ported/polished, 806/853/241 heads all offer the same flow and power potential.
02-11-2012, 05:08 AM
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It was All marketing to help GM make more money. Corvettes are the most expensive so they rated them the highest, F bodies were next, so they rated the WS6 and SS cars higher b/c they cost more.
But to answer your question it doesn't really have 15 HP more then a standard LS1 car. ALL LS1 cars put around 300 to the ground (~350 at engine), and numerous dyno and track results have proven this time and time again. Just like how the LS1 corvettes are rated at 350, they put the same power out as a LS1 f body (which have been proven also through dyno tests).
And as far as an intake system a lid or K&N are both good, and both add around the same HP. It all comes down to preference, but if you have 1 its stupid to buy the other
But to answer your question it doesn't really have 15 HP more then a standard LS1 car. ALL LS1 cars put around 300 to the ground (~350 at engine), and numerous dyno and track results have proven this time and time again. Just like how the LS1 corvettes are rated at 350, they put the same power out as a LS1 f body (which have been proven also through dyno tests).
And as far as an intake system a lid or K&N are both good, and both add around the same HP. It all comes down to preference, but if you have 1 its stupid to buy the other
02-15-2012, 07:07 PM
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Your supposed to. I drove around for about 5k miles without doing that and nothing happened. Then I bought a ported and polished throttle body from Potz Speed on eBay, wish I did it way earlier. There was a noticeable gain there and it was like $50.
