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Old 05-10-2004, 01:01 PM
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My buddy here wants to know if this guy in a 95 cobra w/ a paxton 6 lb supercharger and exhaust will take my LS1 w/ an exhaust and a ton of wheel hop stopping suspension parts. I hook good and run about 13.3 in the 1/4. Only difference is the mustang driver will hit red line every time and i wont. What do you guys think??
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hrm i dont know, i know the 94-95 5.0s are a lot slower than the fox bodies, a lot of them have trouble getting into the 13s with lots of boltons. whats the rest of the setup? stock cobra motor with the paxton? my cobra motor ported heads paxton sc mustang put down 337rwhp with stock tuning and a bad clutch.
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run him see how you do. if you lose...its time for bolt ons and get yourself into the 12's...then do it again or you could do what i did and go nitrous and skip the 12's all together
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so if it was a fox body, he would have you, but the 95, shoot i dont know i havent looked into what they can run with an sc.
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A good hooking LS1 doesn't run 13's unless your da or your weight is 4000.
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Originally Posted by z98
A good hooking LS1 doesn't run 13's unless your da or your weight is 4000.
My track time is 13.6....whats "da"??
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It should be a pretty close race. Hard to tell without more specifics on both of your cars.

And what does this mean?

Originally Posted by z98
A good hooking LS1 doesn't run 13's unless your da or your weight is 4000.
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He means a good hooking LS-1 will be in the 12's.
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Thats kinda what I thought. I'm not sure what he's talking about though. Stock LS1's are NOT in the 12's - with a few rare exceptions. I hook relatively well for street tires - and I haven't hit 12's yet (not since my last track visit at least). I have fought tooth and nail for every gain I have. My car weighs more and I weigh 230 lbs myself. And I race at the track in street form - no slicks - no removed seats - because I wanna know how fast I am on the street ( or at least close - I know the track hooks better ).
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I'm guess it would probably be pretty close. My friend's '95 Cobra with all the bolt-ons, GT40X heads and a Ford Motorsport cam goes 13's, 12.90's on a tire. Goes to show you how slow those cars are stock.
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I hook relatively well for street tires
THAT IS NOT GOOD HOOKING

Your times are not bad for a stock car with a lid/verter but seriously. Good hooking is no tire spin or putting air under the front wheels.

You are running a 13.1 with crappy street tires and 2.73 gears!

If you were hooking good with the performance gear ratio (3.23 gears) you'd be in the 12's easy.

THAT was what I meant.

A good hooking LS1 runs 12's.
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Originally Posted by z98
THAT IS NOT GOOD HOOKING

Your times are not bad for a stock car with a lid/verter but seriously. Good hooking is no tire spin or putting air under the front wheels.

You are running a 13.1 with crappy street tires and 2.73 gears!

If you were hooking good with the performance gear ratio (3.23 gears) you'd be in the 12's easy.

THAT was what I meant.

A good hooking LS1 runs 12's.
OHHH I see. I have to save for a 12 bolt before i get some 15 inch wheels and some slicks.
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I give you the edge on the race, but it should be close!!! I hook great with f1's at my local track and with $425 in mods I hit high 12's
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Originally Posted by z98
THAT IS NOT GOOD HOOKING

Your times are not bad for a stock car with a lid/verter but seriously. Good hooking is no tire spin or putting air under the front wheels.

You are running a 13.1 with crappy street tires and 2.73 gears!

If you were hooking good with the performance gear ratio (3.23 gears) you'd be in the 12's easy.

THAT was what I meant.

A good hooking LS1 runs 12's.
Ok for the most part I do see your point- but you sounded to me like you were referring to a completely stock LS1 car. There are a lot of variables to consider. Many LS1's have the 2.73 gears. I know my 2.73 gears suck but I have kept them up to this point because my car is a daily driver above all and It's nice to get 27+ MPG on the highway. I am ready to upgrade that now though as well. I do mostly city driving anyways and I don't think it will make much difference there. Before I put in my converter. I was running 13.6's with 2.0 60' with NO wheel spin - hence hooking right up. Most people I talk to think my 1.9 60' is quite good considering my overall setup. Hell I see people pulling crappier 60' times with drag radials sometimes. Now my car spins like hell and it takes a delicate launch to not smoke the tires. I'm sure I can hit 12's no problem if I had traction at this point also. I got blown away by a stock Firehawk just the other day and I know if I had just had a better launch I could have taken him - I was playing catchup down the road - but was gaining. All I'm trying to say is that your statement was a little offensive. For some of us 12's has been an elusive goal. I'm proud of what I have accomplished and learned in just a year though. I have knocked about 1 second off my times from stock. I probably haven't done all my mods in the best order but you live and learn. And I have learned a BIG lesson when it comes to tires and traction in this last month. I probably should have bought some drag radials before the headers I just got, but they are next on the list. I have held off on the drag radials until recently because I thought my tires were enough until I took it to the track the last time with the converter installed. Plus I had JUST bought these tires I have now at the end of last summer. I'm sure even with my poor launches I will be in the 12's after my header and ported throttlebody install this weekend and I will be well into the 12's once I get some drag radials.
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elderon, don't take z98's comments personally. what you have accomplished so far is STILL elusive for some of us who are still bone stock. he wasn't knocking on you, or your car bro...just on your idea of what good hooking was. hookin your tires right off the mark with anything over 365 horses is a task, so people generally assume thats what you mean. z98 prolly just rolled out of the wrong side of bed yesterday. all u can do is live and learn with these cars man....its all u can do. that and read LS1Tech religiously
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Originally Posted by cyphur_traq
elderon, don't take z98's comments personally. what you have accomplished so far is STILL elusive for some of us who are still bone stock. he wasn't knocking on you, or your car bro...just on your idea of what good hooking was. hookin your tires right off the mark with anything over 365 horses is a task, so people generally assume thats what you mean. z98 prolly just rolled out of the wrong side of bed yesterday. all u can do is live and learn with these cars man....its all u can do. that and read LS1Tech religiously

Yeah I probably did take it too personally. Thanks for your comments. It definately has been a learning experience. And yes I do read LS1 tech religiously! Actually I have started coming here more than fbody.com. Much better site.
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Bah humbug

Sorry, but say "good hooking" to a car guy, then tell him you run street tires.

See if he laughs.

Now, I HAVE seen a car hook good on street tires, but it was a t-bucket with quite a weight advantage on us.




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