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Old 08-14-2015, 04:36 PM
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Thanks for all the advice and information so far (and for getting my thread to the right part of the forum.)

I guess I've been working on that LT1 for so long I just assumed everything was the same.
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By the way, is it normal for the throttle to kind of bounce between gears when going WOT? My guess was the computer was overriding the engine speed for a safe shift, but I don't actually know enough about these cars to be sure. It only happens if I'm absolutely flooring it.
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Originally Posted by svede1212
They sell them because of internet "common wisdom" which isn't always so wise. Monkey see, monkey do. Having an engine run as cold as possible isn't the best. Engine are designed to run up a little higher. Aluminum and the other parts expand and their clearances are set for running temps. If it's 120* out a 185* stat or a 165* stat will both be wide open and you'll run the same engine temp and be limited by the water pump and radiator not the stat. The stat determines the bottom end, not the top. You're much better off just getting your fans reprogrammed when you get it tuned to come on at lower temps. I have my low speed fan coming on at 195* and the high speed at 200. No matter the temp it never gets above 195* unless I'm sitting stopped for a long time and then the high speed fan comes on.
What in the f ing hell are you talking about. Your stock Stat opens at a certain temp, as with any other stat. If you're cruising down the road with a 160* stat, then the coolant temp won't reach fat over 160 cuz your fans won't be running at that time. Once you stop and ideling, your fans won't turn on until the specified temp programed into the pcm. If you go with a lower stat then it is advised to get the fans reprogrammed. So unless your stat opens at 190, you are only pulling air through a radiator with no coolant flow, and super cooling the stationary coolant cuz the stock stat will be closed.

To the op, the only thing a cooler stat does is allows the engine to get better performance cuz the air and fuel are cooler cuz the engine overall is cooler.
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A colder running engine allows you to run more timing.
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OK, I think I'm going to go

*Lid.
*Exhaust.
*Tune.

And call it a day.
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I'm still going the lid route first, but how do you guys feel about those FAST intake manifolds? Just buying one and getting a tune is a good upgrade (without having to get the bigger throttle body?) How big is too big and how small is too small?
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Id worry more about a stall than a FAST with the mods your planning
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Thanks for all the help so far, guys. Does anyone have any input on my throttle behavior?

At WOT there seems to be an air bubble and the throttle pedal pressure changes between gears, once in gear it returns to normal. I thought maybe the car was just over-riding my input for engine speed to shift safely, but I want to make sure I'm not hurting the car. I haven't WOT since feeling that.
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Originally Posted by SouthernRex
I'm still going the lid route first, but how do you guys feel about those FAST intake manifolds? Just buying one and getting a tune is a good upgrade (without having to get the bigger throttle body?) How big is too big and how small is too small?
A fast 102 will net you the best gains
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If I buy an intake manifold (after lid/catback/stall/tune), do I have to get bigger fuel injectors, or will it run safely with just a tune?

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Stock would be fine but now wouldnt be a bad time to go bigger to be future proof. I originally planned on just doing bolt-ons myself but once you start its impossible to stop..
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Hahaha, that's how it feels. I'm like, OK, I'm just going to get a lid. OK, maybe a lid and an exhaust, I loved how magnaflow sounded on my Camaro. OK, I need it tuned too......
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Is descreening the MAF pointless? It doesn't seem like it would increase airflow by much.
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Originally Posted by SouthernRex
Is descreening the MAF pointless? It doesn't seem like it would increase airflow by much.
I wouldn't recommend it. There have been a couple times I've taken my lid/MAF off and a small blade of grass was on the screen. So I would rather that not get sucked into my intake.
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The screen in front of the MAF is to straighten the airflow so the MAF can read it correctly...

some MAF's work ok without the screen, while other MAF's really need it;

I think you should leave the screen as is.
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a maf screen is a laminar flow screen (look it up) try removing the screen from your faucet at home and you will have a very good example why to leave it on...
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Thank you, I figured that was a dumb idea when I read it.
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Two more questions for you O.G.s.

On the 102 FAST LSXr

Amazon.com: Fast 146302B LSXr Black 102 mm Intake Manifold: Automotive Amazon.com: Fast 146302B LSXr Black 102 mm Intake Manifold: Automotive

I can just put the EGR right in that hole right? I don't want to do any kind of sensor deletes.

Also, is the TB-coolant bypass anything that would trigger any kind of code or sensor problem? Where I live it's insanely hot 300 of the 356 days, I don't need my air warmed.
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3000 + stall converter
Long tubes
Off road Y-pipe
Cutout
Lid
Tune

Stall is the best mod hands down IMO for an auto and makes the car way more fun to drive


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