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Old 10-23-2015, 08:05 PM
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Plan on going to track next sat! I'm switching to the volant cold air setup vs my sealed ws6 setup to see if that makes any difference? I know there's alot of neg thoughts on the volant but I've also read good. We will see? Have couple questions? I'm running ce drag shocks set at 50/50. (1) What setting is best for weight transfer? I'm running nto5 (non r) at 26psi cold.(2) What pressure is ideal for the track? I'm thinking of removing front sway bar? (3)Worth it? I know I need dr's but I'm gonna try to beat my 12.9 at 109 mph with this setup. My obvious problem is off the line spinning. I'm just looking for any way/suggestions to better my 60ft (2.1) so plz answer my 3 questions and feel free to add any other advice. 99 t/a a4/3:23/ boltons. Thx
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as far as pressure goes its something youre going to have to mess around with. ive been told removing your sway bar has benefits due to weight transfer.


are you still running a stock TC?
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Yes stock tc. is it possible to run 1.8-1.9 60's with my setup with good traction?
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24-26 in the rear, and removing the front sway will shed some pds off the nose.
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Originally Posted by ironmikektm525
Yes stock tc. is it possible to run 1.8-1.9 60's with my setup with good traction?
Possibly 1.9's but I don't think your going to get to 1.8's on stock converter with a few bolt ons. I'm thinking consistent 2.0x maybe getting it down to 1.9x
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Thx for info. Been reading all morning on lauch techniques. Seems like stalling it up to around 800-900 rpm works the best? I know its best to test diff rpm's myself but would like to make as few passes as I can. Tracks a distance away. Less passes less chances of me breaking something and having to worry about how I'm gonna get it home!
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I have always found flashing the converter weather it be the stock converter or my yank to work best. Also even try 22 psi. with just a couple rotations in the burnout box. If you do a long smokey burnout with street tires they will get greasy and you will spin all the way down the track
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22psi cold right? Safe to drive over hour 1/2 to track on that pressure? If not what hot pressure is equal to 22 cold? Thx
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I took my front sway bar off and saw no benefit. I didn't like how the car reacted especially under heavy breaking. I almost got out of control once due to someone pulling out in front of me. The body roll horrific. The track I race at doesn't have the longest area to slow down so I have to hit the breaks pretty hard.

As far as the volant, is that sealed to the hood? Any CAI that's open to hot engine bay air isn't helping any. Could possibly pull timing and slow you down if IAT gets hot enough.
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Originally Posted by ironmikektm525
22psi cold right? Safe to drive over hour 1/2 to track on that pressure? If not what hot pressure is equal to 22 cold? Thx
They should have a compressor at your track I would think. I would just drop them down right when you get to the track. Maybe even 20 psi. Your just looking for the biggest contact patch due to a lot of heat in the tires is not really going to help you hook like a radial would. Then just stop at a gas station on your way home and put the proper air back in if your track does not have a compressor.
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Volant is sealed to the hood with filters in direct flow with ram air hood.thx cay for pressure advice! What you think about sway removal? I've read so much horror stories and so much non horror lol. If it helps even .05 of a tenth I'm in!!!! Ill be happy with a 12.89999! Scott you must run at nyirp right? it was hard to slow down there?

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I have never removed mine nor do I have any experience with it on or off. With my setup and always running a good radial I have never felt the need to remove my front sway bar due to traction issues
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Yeah I hear ha. I should've just bought dr's rather then nto5's. I went from nt555 to nto5 and did notice a bit more traction. I used to spin when I hit 2nd with the nt555. Nto5 no 2nd spin. I put on some miles that's why I chose the nto5's
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O ya, and by a lot of heat in the tires I meant a long burnout in turn making a radial gummy. not hot or cold tire pressure lol just clearing that up from my previous post
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Originally Posted by ironmikektm525
Yeah I hear ha. I should've just bought dr's rather then nto5's. I went from nt555 to nto5 and did notice a bit more traction. I used to spin when I hit 2nd with the nt555. Nto5 no 2nd spin. I put on some miles that's why I chose the nto5's
Was your 2.1 60' on nt555's?
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Lol i knew what you were saying! What about setting for my ce shocks? Any experience?
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I ran 2.1 on nt555 yes. I also ran 2.1 on the nto5's but that was at a diff track with crap prep! I had to feather it out the hole at that track im going back to the original track assuming I should get a little better traction? Gonna be cold though . Someone else chime in on the sway bar before/after 60ft.

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Originally Posted by ironmikektm525
I ran 2.1 on nt555 yes. I also ran 2.1 on the nto5's but that was at a diff track with crap prep! Im going back to the original track assuming I should get a little better traction? Gonna be cold though .
Ya its going to be tough in cold weather to hook on street tires but the nt05's do get better traction than the 555's.
Just play around with tire pressure and burnout lengths.
Good luck and post up your results. I don't see any reason you should not be able to pull at least a 2.0x 60'
O ya....... Drag radials
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Yup def will post results good or bad. Going next sat(weather permitting)dr's next year for sure!
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when I took my stalled auto car to the track 2 falls ago ( mods & times in sig) it was a street night with poor prep and the car was getting slower on me due to 60 foots getting worse as idiots dragged more water out on the track .

I was on MT et streets , I kept dropping the pressures , got all the way to 13 which is where I used to run my dr's on FWD cars , better but still had some spin night was almost done so threw a bunch of shyte at the wall , swapped to mashing it from idle to transfer weight more abruptly , removed front sway bar again for weight transfer ,and tossed my jack and tool box in the trunkwell (approx. 150 pounds of ballast) again to help with weight transfer , hooked good (1.7 60 foot) but then started having a fuel delivery issue starving/ missing by the 1000 ft ended up being a bad pump haven't had it back to the track since but first rwd passes in over 20 years 12.1 on a bolt on car all the stuff I did to help it hook was worth the effort , it will definitely handle differently but to me that was a small price to pay it never felt unsafe.

as for tire pressures you keep mentioning cold you want to know what they are hot !!! air them down then make a pass and check them on the return road , your passes will be on hot tires so you want to know what psi hot works best.

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