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08-06-2006, 12:53 AM
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Incredible numbers claimed by a sponsor... This comment was made by a supporting tuner of LS1tech in the f-body section of the corvetteforum.
He's also claiming that he put down 335 rwhp/353 rwtq STOCK.
This info is coming from a SPONSOR of this website!
Please fill me in, is he flat out lying, or did some later f-bodies come with complete LS6's, and dyno 335rwhp stock?
My car was built towards the end of production, so GM was putting LS6's into them, just so they didn't have to make more LS1's, from what I've been told. (I've also got the build sheets, of the whole assembly process. It tells on what day what parts were done. The car took 3 days, from starting point to the time it drove off the line.) It had an LS6 block, LS6 heads, and an LS6 cam.
My T/A stock - 335/353 rwhp/rwtq
Please fill me in, is he flat out lying, or did some later f-bodies come with complete LS6's, and dyno 335rwhp stock?
08-06-2006, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 02NBMWS6
My car is a very late built 02 without the LS6 block and 241 heads and it dyno'd 336/350 stock.
LS6 blocks did come in a portion of 01 and 02 cars but never 243 heads.
LS6 blocks did come in a portion of 01 and 02 cars but never 243 heads.
08-06-2006, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Trust
Actually VERY few late 02's had 243's, but I don't believe any had an LS6 cam.
08-06-2006, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 02NBMWS6
Thus the debate goes on... lol Some say there were 243's and some say just the blocks. I respectfully choose to believe there were never 243s, until someone shows me some proof, which i wouldnt mind seeing!
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08-06-2006, 10:23 AM
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They put an ls6 in just so they wouldnt have to make more ls1's??? They doesnt make sense to me, seeing they made more for the gto's. OR...maybe Im jealous cause I bought a 2000. Maybe thats why you here about a few 02's running 12.9, even heard of a 12.8 right out of the box.
08-06-2006, 10:39 AM
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Personally, I also do not beleive that 243 heads ever made it onto an F-body on the assembly line. I'd have to see proof from GM to beleive this.
The LS6 block I beleive, but not the heads and definitely not the cam.
GM was still putting LS1s into '04 GTOs and '03/'04 C5s, so why would they be running out of LS1 parts in '02?
The LS6 block I beleive, but not the heads and definitely not the cam.
GM was still putting LS1s into '04 GTOs and '03/'04 C5s, so why would they be running out of LS1 parts in '02?
08-06-2006, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
GM was still putting LS1s into '04 GTOs and '03/'04 C5s, so why would they be running out of LS1 parts in '02?
can't speak for the other LS1 cars.
08-06-2006, 01:40 PM
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Considering they still put the ls1's in the vette for 2 more years, I highly doubt they ran out, or did not want to make any ls1's. Actally I believe it was 20% of 02 cars had the ls6 block. They never came with ls6 cams. As far as heads, I have never heard of it through any reputable sorce. A local guy claimed the same thing. I went over and looked at his car and it had 241 heads. He told everyone the same story you heard about the ls6 engine. 
As far as the Dyno #'s you would be amazed how high the #'s can be without the correction factor and smoothing. Another board member likes to say his car pulled 350 something rwhp. I was at the Dyno day, before he played with the #'s. They were 320rwhp corrected. Still a strong car, but not 350 rwhp. He took the correction out of the graph and the smoothing, and got 353 rwhp.
As far as the Dyno #'s you would be amazed how high the #'s can be without the correction factor and smoothing. Another board member likes to say his car pulled 350 something rwhp. I was at the Dyno day, before he played with the #'s. They were 320rwhp corrected. Still a strong car, but not 350 rwhp. He took the correction out of the graph and the smoothing, and got 353 rwhp. 
08-06-2006, 02:38 PM
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I think we can all agree;
LS6 block, yes, very possibile.
LS6 Heads/Cam, NO.
LS6 block, yes, very possibile.
LS6 Heads/Cam, NO.
08-06-2006, 03:25 PM
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we have to find the guy who bought the very last bird or camaro and ask him, i believe the guy with the last production bird is on this website. Surely if they ran out of ls1 blocks and heads, the guy would have 243 stock heads...maybe he'll chime in