transamfreak01

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so my buddy bought a 2000 ta and we went to the track and he ran a 13.0 on the 1/4. his car is stock. some1 said that it is a factory freak. is this possible?

ChocoTaco369

i take it it's an M6? many M6's have broken into 12's in the quarter mile with great drivers. your buddy can just

now if it's an A4, that's pretty freakish.

HandsomeBWouderful

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Do a search for "factory freak". Some people, myself included, believe that this term is thrown around too much without looking at the circumstances behind the event that defines the car as a "freak". I'd just say that the conditions were right and the driver was good in this particular case.

transamfreak01

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no the crazy thing iis thats its and a4... we had the whole thing checked out and couldnt find any upgraded parts

farnoush

I ran a 13.1 stock with an A4 and a poo 60'

v8hunter

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What was his 60 foot time?
What was his trap speed?

30thanniv

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I am going to have to call the mythbusters on this one.
Factory freak my foot.
I think this modern day urban legend has grown out of the factory ringers that GM used to turn out for the magazine guys back in the heyday of musclecars. The most famous of all IMHO being the 64 389 gto that Wangers gave the guys which actually sported a 421.
Sue me, but my stomach wretches every time I hear someone mention factory freak on this site. All ls-1's are basically the same out of the factory.
Like anything mechanical there are slight variances from car to car. On average low to mid 13's is typical for ls-1's.
A car that goes 13.0's is not unusual for an ls-1, specially if you have good air, and a good driver.
Now the next time someone mentions a factory freak I think I will

02NBMFormula

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dont believe its a freak but just a well maintained car that was driven well during good conditions mixed with a little luck

02 Camaro SS

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What was the trap speed, 60 foot, tires, weather...?

transamfreak01

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ill have to ask him what his 60 foot was and his trap but i know he did it on street tires

Katech_Jason

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I believe there are factory freaks. We built a T1 SCCA LS6 which had to remain within factory tolerances. The GM tolerances were wide enough that we could maximize them and still remain legal. I think that if enough tolerances stack up in your favor, you could have a factory freak.

john shea

I think some may be faster than others but what is overlooked is things
like driver's weight. If one driver weighed only 140 lbs. and the next weighs 240 lbs. thats about .1 in the 1/4.

HandsomeBWouderful

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Good point, I definately bow to experience. However, could your "maximizations" have happened on the assembly floor in that Canada plant?

Katech_Jason

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To an extent, yes. But not to the level that we did.

SSDoubleK

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I've heard the term used, and yes not every car can run the same. You just might have a freak.

Ls1_axxxman

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I do believe a car can come out of the factory a lil stronger than normal though, reason being..variances in quality of parts. Think about it this way, theres an assload of parts involved in the construction of a car,not all will be 100% every time. More than likely very tiny variances, but they add up, good or bad. On the other hand, the initial break in and maintenance of an engine plays a big role in a "freak" also. A good break in followed with a religious maintenance schedule will almost always net better performance.

unit213

I don't.

camaroextra

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Good air, good track prep. thats all.

staringback05

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cars can be freaks....my 99 motor with 40k on it sucked, very loose....my new 01 motor is tighter and has more perk to it....its night and day

HowellSoccer88

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Well you have to figure that you are going from a mildly used motor to new and with the 99 to 01 change you also picked up a couple thinks (ex. LS6 intake) so you should be telling differences...