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Old 10-29-2007, 11:57 PM
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As the title states when my car is given anything over 1/2 throttle the car bogs greatly and it feels like i have a severe loss of power. Then when the car reaches high RPMs the car gives out and even when u push on the gas nothing happens and the car slows down till it stops. During this process of slowing down fire is shot from the exhaust. I have replaced the MAF becuase the only time the problem has ever been fixed is when the MAF was unhooked. What could be the problem?
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Have you checked your sparkplugs? Maybe they are getting saturated with fuel, which would explain the rich condition, (fire from exhaust) and cutting your spark off.
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havnt checked the plugs the motor was recently rebuilt and i believe the guy changed the plugs during the rebuild. (car had same problem before rebuild) but i will check the plugs after class tomorrow. The car is only gettin about 14mpg and even tho its got 4.10s shouldnt it be gettin better than that
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Try to see if you can get an A/F gauge and see where it's reading at. 14mpg with a stock cam? Too much fuel is being dumped.
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yea thats what i was thinkin i go to school 180 miles from home and it takes me a full tank of gas to get home..where would be the best place to go bout usin a A/F guage?
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Best place is to find a shop that has a dyno but that will cost ya. A full tank of gas for 180 miles? Damn that's alot, should be more like a half tank for that many miles. Is that city or highway driving? The 4.10s will hurt more on the highway than in the city.
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its all parkway runs bout 3500 or so goin 75.....i knew itd hurt my mpg but not that much
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Too much gear, you should bring it down to 3.73s. Fix your fuel problem first though.
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yea i like the 4.10s but i gotta make the drive alot...as far as the A/F gettin checked what kinda price does that normally run?
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I agree with Roarin_8. Your run'n way too RICH!
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yea i figured it was but what could be cuasin it to run so rich?
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Well you tell us,... Exactly what did you do to your car before all this started happening? Running Rich usually happens just after a header install.
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The tune, if there was one. A dyno tune will run you about $500, first just check your spark plugs and see if they are wet. Most likely getting flooded from too much fuel being poured in.

I remember when I was at the track and a guy with a 3000GT was tuning the car himself. He was making the car too rich (turbo car) and dying at the line. He would take his plugs out and they were drenched. He would have to wait till they dried so that he could try again.
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the car began doing it shortly after i bought it...it had a SLP MAF and the mods in teh sig and thats it when i unhooked teh MAF it seemed to fix it so i figured it was a bad MAF but when i put a stock one in it still does it. I was told the car had aftermarket heads and cams at one time but the car now is all stock so it may have been tuned in the past. As for headers they're stock i have LTs but have yet to install tehm
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Originally Posted by Roarin_8
The tune, if there was one. A dyno tune will run you about $500, first just check your spark plugs and see if they are wet. Most likely getting flooded from too much fuel being poured in.

I remember when I was at the track and a guy with a 3000GT was tuning the car himself. He was making the car too rich (turbo car) and dying at the line. He would take his plugs out and they were drenched. He would have to wait till they dried so that he could try again.
I think that only applies if your "tuner" is an idiot and fats thats that sucker up WAY too much tho. Keep in mind ,.. your "tuner" is gonna do 3-4 pulls on average to find your sweet spot on the dyno. Unless he made the same mistake 3-4 times in a row I don't think it was a tune. It has to be something else.... Unless your "tuner" (if your have one) is a dumb-****!
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Originally Posted by 98blckTA
the car began doing it shortly after i bought it...it had a SLP MAF and the mods in teh sig and thats it when i unhooked teh MAF it seemed to fix it so i figured it was a bad MAF but when i put a stock one in it still does it. I was told the car had aftermarket heads and cams at one time but the car now is all stock so it may have been tuned in the past. As for headers they're stock i have LTs but have yet to install tehm
Try this,.. go out side to your car,... pop the hood,.. disconnect the battery and the MAF,... give it a few minutes and plug em BOTH back in,... start her up and drive around for 10 minutes. Unplugging the Battery will force your ECU to reset. Maybe that will help.
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Originally Posted by WS6 Rampage
I think that only applies if your "tuner" is an idiot and fats thats that sucker up WAY too much tho. Keep in mind ,.. your "tuner" is gonna do 3-4 pulls on average to find your sweet spot on the dyno. Unless he made the same mistake 3-4 times in a row I don't think it was a tune. It has to be something else.... Unless your "tuner" (if your have one) is a dumb-****!
Yep, I was saying tune because he stated that the car had the same problem before the rebuild.
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ok ill try it when i get outta class tomorrow...we did that once before but we didnt unhook the MAF when we did it
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too bad you don't have a handheld to run a diagnostic. I'm in love with mine! I can always read my baby's mind! LMAO!...
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Originally Posted by WS6 Rampage
Try this,.. go out side to your car,... pop the hood,.. disconnect the battery and the MAF,... give it a few minutes and plug em BOTH back in,... start her up and drive around for 10 minutes. Unplugging the Battery will force your ECU to reset. Maybe that will help.
I don't think that's gonna work. If I remember correctly, it has something to do with flash memory on the car's computer. That's like saying that if you did that you'll lose your whole tune which I don't believe would be that easy.


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